Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2008/12/29

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Subject: [Leica] reflection...
From: kididdoc at (Steve Barbour)
Date: Mon Dec 29 15:01:29 2008
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On Dec 29, 2008, at 3:21 PM, Greg Lorenzo wrote:

> Steve Barbour wrotes:
>> Mark and his two Presa Canario's...> > > 
> I believe it was two dogs of this breed, or this breed mixed, that  
> attacked and killed a woman in San Francisco a fews back (Dianne  
> Whipple?).
> I'm a dog lover but this one breed I would not want to own,  
> especially in the city or anywhere around children.

me too Greg, I know.   While I can't defend this breed, as it has a  
bad reutation for aggressive behavior, often it's the owner/trainer  
that's the problem. People who are the last ones  who should have this  
breed, as well as rottweilers, and pit bulls, are often attracted to  
them. These especially, and all dogs, must be properly trained and  
socialized. These two are very well trained, obedient, but they are  
not my dogs and I keep my eye on them closely. Interestingly their  
owner is a professional photographer friend.   I , as a physician,  
have cared for too many children, victims of life threatening dog  
attacks. I am certainly one not one to address your feelings casually,  
as I think the owners often grossly miscalculate the attributes and  
behavior of their own dogs...
by and large I don't feel very generous to the dogs or to the owners.

The immense  tragedy in San Francisco involved a couple of dogs, with  
a complicated history, living in an apartment building, with people  
not in control of them,  and those dogs had been specifically trained  
to be vicious, trained to defend and attack....

The breed to me has a scary reputation and appearance,


> Greg Lorenzo
> Calgary, Canada
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thanks,  Steve

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