Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2008/12/21

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Subject: [Leica] Re: The S2 is not a LEICA
From: photo at frozenlight.eu (Nathan Wajsman)
Date: Sun Dec 21 22:35:22 2008
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Given that Barnack was a great innovator of his time, I do not at all  
think he is spinning in his grave over the M8, the R10 to come, the S2  
etc. I think he would have appreciated the new technologies. He may  
have spun a couple of times over some of the silly collector editions,  
though.

Nathan

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On Dec 22, 2008, at 4:40 AM, Geoff Hopkinson wrote:

> Larry it certainly wasn't designed by Oskar Barnack, but Dr Kaufmann  
> and Maike's design team would disagree with your assertion, as does  
> this customer ;-) I'm not sure what you'd like, are all of the M's  
> not Leicas? The M8? What is it you want from the S2? LTM size?
> Cheers
> Leica Hoppy
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lawrence Zeitlin" 
> <lrzeitlin@optonline.net 
> >
> To: <lug@leica-users.org>
> Cc: "Lawrence Zeitlin" <lrzeitlin@optonline.net>
> Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 1:47 AM
> Subject: [Leica] Re: The S2 is not a LEICA
>
>
>>
>> On Dec 20, 2008, at 11:00 PM, Hoppy wrote:
>>
>>> Steve , in my opinion, the purpose of the S2 is to offer a superb   
>>> medium
>>> format LEICA system at the top of the quality tree for pros. The  
>>> lens
>>> specifications are simply stunning. I very much look forward to   
>>> seeing the
>>> first results as they come into service.
>>
>>
>> For true believers, the S2 is not a Leica. It shares none of the   
>> heritage of Oskar Barnack's inspiration. With few exceptions,  
>> Leicas  were designed to be portable, indeed pocketable. The camera  
>> was  intended to be a photographic companion on hikes and trips. An  
>> S2 and  lens kit will require a pack mule. There has always been a  
>> continuity  between camera generations. One of the features of the  
>> 35 mm Leica RF  design is that all LTM and M mount lenses made for  
>> the last 70 years  can be mounted on the modern film and digital RF  
>> Leica cameras.  Almost every bloated Leica failed in the  
>> marketplace. Leica makes (or  made) first class optical equipment,  
>> binoculars, surveying gear,  etc.) and the S2 specs are ambitious  
>> indeed. It may be a great  professional and studio camera, and  
>> possibly a Hassleblad killer -  BUT IT IS NOT A LEICA.
>>
>> Oskar must be spinning in his grave.
>>
>> Larry Z
>>
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In reply to: Message from lrzeitlin at optonline.net (Lawrence Zeitlin) ([Leica] Re: The S2 is not a LEICA)
Message from hoppyman at bigpond.net.au (Geoff Hopkinson) ([Leica] Re: The S2 is not a LEICA)