Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2008/12/20
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]What's MWR? simon On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 9:50 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark@rabinergroup.com> wrote: > I've not had a problem with auto focusing and wide angles. > Its not like there's not a lot of leeway. > Mine have worked perfectly. Sometimes I override. But usually the AF works > better than MWR. > > > > mark@rabinergroup.com > Mark William Rabiner > > > > > From: simon jessurun <simon.apekop@gmail.com> > > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org> > > Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 09:42:05 +0100 > > To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org> > > Subject: Re: [Leica] un-believable > > > > Quite true Mark. > > Nathan nothing wrong with Canon wide angles just with (canon) autofocus > and > > wide angles .Autofocus hardly ever gets it right with wide angles. > > Find it totally useless as well and use Merklingers infinity focussing > > method.Then the results are quite good.Here is a image of a Canon zoom > lens > > image not the top of the bill but quite adequate imho > > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/animal/canon/B_001.jpg.html > > > > best,simon > > > > On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 7:22 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark@rabinergroup.com> > wrote: > > > >> Talking about the "quality" of the M8 sensor against the "quality" of > the > >> sensors most serious amateurs and pros are using is a blurring of a > >> simplification of the issue. > >> Like talking about the "Quality" of a film Hasselblad over a Canon > camera. > >> Or the "Quality" of a Nikon over an Olympus FT. > >> "Quality" has surprisingly little to do with it. > >> Its real estate. And not location location location but: > >> Size of the plot. Acreage. Square feet. Square yards. Meter. > >> FORMAT. > >> The build of the camera has little to do with it. > >> The wonderfulness of how flat it holds the film.... > >> > >> A cheap termite ridden 4x5 will give a way superior image over roll film > >> every time... With a fungus ridden optic on it. It doesn't even have to > try > >> very hard. Tap dance on your wet negs on your darkroom floor. Its hard > to > >> mess of the brilliant superiority of sheet film. > >> > >> The M8 is a half frame camera. Digital. But half frame > >> The rest of the serious shooting world has moved up to full 24x36 frame. > >> The sensor can be really great which I'm sure it is but its not going to > go > >> up against a sensor twice its length across. > >> It's not going to go up against a HALF ASSED sensor twice its length > >> across. > >> > >> In another time warp dimension What if Barnack decided not to go "double > >> frame" which was what 24x36 was then called then but was intractable in > the > >> ongoing working movie film frame size at the time called "single frame" > or > >> 18x24???? > >> We'd not be talking about Barnack at this point because no one would > have > >> heard of him and this would be the Leica historic list not the Leica > users > >> list.. > >> Leica would have been quickly eclipsed by Nikon and Canon and Pentax in > the > >> 30's and it would be a distant memory of a microscope company who made > real > >> high quality half frame cameras in the 20's then went under in the 30's > >> depression. > >> And that's what could happen now. > >> With the S2 aimed squarely at one out of 100 thousand pros and serious > >> amateurs who have a decimal point less cash to blow on gear than is the > >> price point of the S2. > >> 20,000 big E's. > >> > >> What does Leica have which is going to go up against a Nikon D3, D3x or > >> D700 > >> with a 14-24 2.8 ultra wide zoom on it > >> or a Canon full frame with their ultra wide zoom on it? ...... > >> .... A Zoom Super Wide Angle EF 16-35mm f/2.8L II USM AutoFocus Lens? > >> > >> > >> (whatever Canon has which is going to go up against Nikons 14-24 2.8 > you're > >> going to have to tune in next week for. As that's how long it will take > >> Canon to reply to the Nikon challenge. NOT the end of next summer) > >> Days not seasons. > >> > >> > >> > >> mark@rabinergroup.com > >> Mark William Rabiner > >> > >> > >> > >>> From: Lottermoser George <imagist3@mac.com> > >>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org> > >>> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 19:24:41 -0600 > >>> To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org> > >>> Subject: Re: [Leica] un-believable > >>> > >>> I'll take the fine detail and dynamic range > >>> over > >>> the high ISO auto noise reduction > >>> every time > >>> > >>> Would I like ISO 64,000 with no noise > >>> AND the M8 detail and dynamic range > >>> You bet. Maybe someday I'll have it. > >>> > >>> For now. Simply love the M8 and the photographs it produces. > >>> > >>> Fond regards, > >>> George > >>> > >>> george@imagist.com > >>> http://www.imagist.com > >>> http://www.imagist.com/blog > >>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Dec 19, 2008, at 7:06 PM, Sonny Carter wrote: > >>> > >>>>> The M8 has been out since 2006. So has the D80. Each camera has 10.1 > >>>>> megapixels, decent noise per ISO, but the price was very different. > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Leica Users Group. > >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Leica Users Group. > >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >