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Subject: [Leica] Anybody use the 1.5/50mm Nokton on an M8?
From: leica at web-options.com (Bob W)
Date: Mon Dec 8 11:58:32 2008
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> >
> > I should think there are plenty of reasons why. My experience of  
> > some of the
> > Zeiss lenses on film and digital supports this. Although I never
> > particularly compared bokeh
> 
> that is very interesting, though I am talking about bokeh per 
> se...do  
> you have any examples?  what reasons explain it?
> 
> 

there are several important differences between film and digital sensors,
including these:

1. the distribution of grain particles on film is random, whereas sensors
are regular
2. the angle of the light receptors on a digital sensor influences the
amount of light hitting the sensor, and differs across the chip, whereas the
notion of grain angle does not exist
3. film and digital sensors respond differently to UV and IR, and presumably
also to different parts of the visible spectrum
4. digital sensors don't react as well as film to chromatic aberrations -
older lenses were designed for film tolerances, not digital
5. colour and luminance noise are inherent with digital, but not with film
(which has its own imperfections of course)
6. Blooming - or whatever its chemical analogue is - is not present in film
(as far as I know). Different sensors have different ways of draining the
excess charge.

I'm not an optical or sensor scientist, so my knowledge of these things is
rudimentary to say the least, but each of these accounts for differences
between film and digital responses to light and colour. I see no great
reason for most of them why they should be different for in and out of focus
areas (although some of the differences are edge-related, so presumably less
noticeable in oof areas).

Bob


Replies: Reply from kididdoc at cox.net (Steve Barbour) ([Leica] Anybody use the 1.5/50mm Nokton on an M8?)
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