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Subject: [Leica] Bad news at Leica - FF or crop survey
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Sun Dec 7 00:35:25 2008

This is a Leica list. Some think "the" Leica list.
On this list how many of use are shooting with DSLR's?
Most of us. The majority of us by far though quite a few of us of course are
getting good use out of our M8's.

Of the vast majority of us who are getting most of our shots with DSLR's how
many of use are FF's and how many of us are croppers?

I think must of us on this list are FFers.
I'd love a survey.
or if many of us "weighed in".

I unfortunately and not for long am shooting at 1.5 crop  as I have been for
years first with a Nikon D100 when it first hit now D200 and D40x -
But not for long.
I got my eye on January 17th for my upgrade date.
I like the idea of a 50mm being my "normal" focal length again.



mark@rabinergroup.com
Mark William Rabiner



> From: Mark Rabiner <mark@rabinergroup.com>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
> Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 21:18:35 -0500
> To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
> Conversation: [Leica] Bad news at Leica
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Bad news at Leica
> 
> Right now APS-2 and similar 1.5 or close to it crop systems are starting to
> be be referred to as "small sensor cameras". This will be the preferred
> terminology in a week or so.
> 
> In six months you will be hard pressed do find ANYONE
> Doing anything resembling serious work with "small sensor cameras".
> 
> LEICA and SERIOUS WORK is/are synonymous or should be.
> 
> 
> There will be a GAP where there shouldn't be.
> 
> 
> 
> mark@rabinergroup.com
> Mark William Rabiner
> 
> 
> 
>> From: Bob W <leica@web-options.com>
>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
>> Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 01:35:45 -0000
>> To: 'Leica Users Group' <lug@leica-users.org>
>> Subject: RE: [Leica] Bad news at Leica
>> 
>>> 
>>> How can we convince them that the M system is ok without AF?
>>> 
>>> What the M system needs is FF not AF.
>>> 
>>> Give me FF or give me Death!
>>> 
>> 
>> I don't think AF, FF or Death! are particularly desirable. What I would
>> prefer is a sensor without the problems,  and a return to the size of the
>> early M models (M3 etc). So called FF is largely irrelevant given the
>> resolution of the current sensor, and the availability of reasonably wide
>> lenses.
>> 
>> Bob
>> 
>> 
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