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Subject: [Leica] ... and Some Thoughts on the M3
From: hoppyman at bigpond.net.au (Geoff Hopkinson)
Date: Sat Nov 1 06:18:44 2008
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Frank, yep. I've never seen rangefinder white-out though. I do find
frame-lines in post M3 M's harder to find if my eye position is imperfect.  
My M3 won't show me frames for my 35 or 28 or a 24 if I could get one! It
sucks for digital capture too and the meter reading is really hard to see.

Cheers
Geoff
http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman/e
http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/gh/
Maike Harbets speaks on the S2. .... So we will drop down this technology to
our other systems.
Our priority is to modernise the R system which will be in the end an R10,
definitely.

-----Original Message-----
Subject: RE: [Leica] ... and Some Thoughts on the M3

The M3 rangefinder/viewfinder assembly is a completely different design to
M2 and subsequent units, and is no longer available. The M2 unit is less
expensive to make and, because of this and the popularity of the wider angle
of view it became the standard, the differences between subsequent designs
were small, but in some cases, such as the whiteout of M6 rangefinder
window, not negligible.
cheers,
Frank



--- On Sat, 1/11/08, Geoff Hopkinson <hoppyman@bigpond.net.au> wrote:

> From: Geoff Hopkinson <hoppyman@bigpond.net.au>
> Subject: RE: [Leica] ... and Some Thoughts on the M3
> To: "'Leica Users Group'" <lug@leica-users.org>
> Date: Saturday, 1 November, 2008, 12:41 PM Lluis the frame-lines in 
> the M3 are etched into glass, I think. As I've said off-list to you I 
> think that they are the best 50mm frames ever. Better than my M6 or M7 
> or M8. Now the frames are projected through a mask.
> The reason for the magnifiers now is focus (and framing) accuracy with 
> the digital sensor and lower magnification. The sensor is unforgiving. 
> Film has tolerance. When you get it right with the digital sensor the 
> quality is stunning. Plus even with the crop factor you could never 
> use a 24 (32 on
> film) with the M3.   
> 
> 
> Cheers
> Geoff
> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman/e
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/gh/
> Maike Harbets speaks on the S2. .... So we will drop down this 
> technology to our other systems.
> Our priority is to modernise the R system which will be in the end an 
> R10, definitely.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> Subject: Re: [Leica] ... and Some Thoughts on the M3
> 
> Frank,
> 
> I rarey use my 1,25x, IMO they "eat" some brilliance.
> 
> About the M3 VF, I've never understod why Leica did not remake it on a 
> modern version
> 
> Saludos cordiales
> Lluis
> 
> El 31/10/2008, a las 7:17, Frank Filippone escribi?:
> 
> > I agree with the improvement using the 1.25 ( I do not
> have a 1.4, but
> > believe it will work as well....)
> >
> > However, the 1.4 costs as much as almost any other
> manufacturer's SLR
> > 50mm lens.... !
> >
> > I guess glass is glass at Leica...
> >
> > Frank Filippone
> > red735i@earthlink.net
> >
> >
> > The magnifiers are VERY helpful with critical DoF on
> the 50 and up
> > wide open as well.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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