[Leica] Leica MP with "Black ISO dial".... fact or fiction?

[r.s.taylor_post at comcast.net (Richard S. Taylor)]

Ditto for me.  I had one of those 100 Betrieb M7s, too and ended up  
selling it to KEH for pretty much the usual price.  I noticed  
afterwards that they were selling it as a Betrieb. camera at a $100  
premium but that may just have been its better condition than the  
other N7s they were offering.

Regards,

Dick
off-list comments to r.s.taylor at comcast dot net please.





On Oct 16, 2008, at 2:16 AM, Geoff Hopkinson wrote:

> I agree with Frank.
> My Betriebsk (Test Set)M7 has been for sale for a while with little  
> interest
> at no premium and there were apparently only 100 so marked.
> The Australian Flag version of the M7 numbered I think less than 10  
> and yet
> I saw two for sale at no premium and no obvious takers.
> On the other hand I have this Ur Leica, complete with some daggy  
> looking
> blueprints inside a brief case marked O.B. I don't know if that is  
> worth
> much. Its looks pretty old and half of the film inside has been  
> exposed
> already, apparently.
>
>
> Cheers
> Geoff
> Aber Masse kann Klasse nicht ersetzen....Aber die R10 kommt.
> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman/e
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/gh/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org
> [mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] On  
> Behalf Of
> Frank Filippone
> Sent: Thursday, 16 October 2008 14:29
> To: 'Leica Users Group'
> Subject: RE: [Leica] Leica MP with "Black ISO dial".... fact or  
> fiction?
>
> A subset of the question and Emmanuel's response is... what is the  
> cost of
> installing am ISO dial on the back of an MP?
>
> No one can prove it was there to begin with.......
>
> And..... what is the value of an MP with or without this "feature"?   
> Is
> there a difference?
>
> As an example: ::
> I am the "keeper" of the Classic  M6 0.85 VF serial numbers.   There  
> were
> only 3130 produced.  We know this because Leica told us.  The extra  
> values
> of this very rare camera?  Nothing more than any other M6.
> The new "rare" versions of Leica cameras are not fetching a premium.
>
> BTW, there are an even smaller number ( maybe less than 50) of the  
> above
> camera made with the engraving of....
> LEICA CAMERA GMBH
>   MADE IN GERMANY
>
> And they too are worth no more than a common .72 Classic M6.  So  
> rarity and
> price appreciation do not go hand in hand.......at least for the new
> cameras.....
>
> Friday is the day......
>
> Frank Filippone
> red735i@earthlink.net
>
>
> I went back to the eBay listing I was referring to
> (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item
> =230259025383#ht_3124wt_0
> ). The seller is saying (I think) that there is something special re:
> the ISO dial being black and only 1000 cameras were so made. He is  
> asking
> for ~$1K premium because of this distinction. He appears to be a  
> Camera
> Dealer from the Wash. D.C. area. My serial number is 100 units away  
> from the
> number given for the camera listed.
>
> Is this making sense?
>
> I will list my camera and lenses on friday as I understand that  
> posting "for
> sale" is not looked upon favorably on this list on other days.
>
> cheers
> Jack
>
>
>
>
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