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Subject: [Leica]1.4/80 prices in Germany
From: grduprey at mchsi.com (grduprey@mchsi.com)
Date: Sat Sep 20 07:05:38 2008

Doug,

Thanks for the info, The dealer who has it is asking $899, so I guess it 
would be a good price.

Gene

-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Douglas Sharp <douglas.sharp@gmx.de>
>
> Gene,
> the latest Fomag lists in Germany quote 800 Euros for the 1.4/80mm - 
> means , depending on condition, dealer prices of anywhere between 600 
> and 1600 Euros.
> 
> The top price will vary according to what the dealer hopes to get for 
> it, the lower price is an absolute minimum based on what a dealer 
> clearing unsold second hand stock would ask, having given the previous 
> owner around 350 to 400 euros for it.
> 
> In Germany, prices vary a lot depending on whether it is
> a) "Kommissionsware" (sold on commission, where the original owner sets 
> the price - haggling on the price means the dealer will call the 
> previous owner to see if he'll accept an offer)
> or
> b) a "Gelegenheit" (something taken in part exchange, with the price set 
> by the dealer - you can haggle directly on this price). The advantage of 
> the latter is that you get a 6-month or 1-year warranty (if the dealer 
> says less, he's acting outside German trading regulations) this means 
> that the store will take it back or have it repaired for you if it turns 
> out to be defective.
> 
> For the former, you usually get a so-called "Ã?bernahmegarantie" of a few 
> weeks - this means test it and bring it back if its not OK to get your 
> money back.
> 
> So-called "Demonstrationsware" or "Vorführware" means it's stuff that 
> may have been lent out to good customers or just handled rather a lot in 
> the store - this would come boxed with full papers and full Leica warranty.
> 
> Hope this helps
> Douglas
> 
> 
> grduprey@mchsi.com wrote:
> > Mark,
> >
> > IT works just fine, and the M8 is the only camera I have here on my 
> > trip... 
> Foolishly or not, I have taken up Ted's challenge.  ;-)  Working 
> flawlessly so 
> far, but sure wish I had a second one, so I would not have to change 
> lenses so 
> often.  I keep trying to talk SWMBO into letting me get another at 
> Photokina, 
> but so far she just smiles... ;-)
> >
> > I will also add my wife has brought the D200 for her use.
> >
> > A question... What is a good price for a used 80/1.4 Summilux R?  It is 
> > not a 
> ROM version, but is in very good condition.  I am thinking of buying it if 
> the 
> price is right.
> >
> > Gene
> >
> >
> >
> > -------------- Original message ----------------------
> > From: Mark Pope <mark.teampope@ntlworld.com>
> >   
> >> Frank,
> >>
> >> A fair point, which is certainly valid with any software that 
> >> originates 
> >> from Redmond...However,would you have made the same comment if Leica 
> >> had 
> >> badged the software version differently? Say 1.3 rather than 2.0x?
> >>
> >> I have downloaded the software, but haven't got around to loading it 
> >> yet 
> >> but that's just me procrastinating rather than being reticent.
> >>
> >> I do have a concern about the apparent lack of a regression path to 
> >> 1.201, but so far I haven't heard of anyone turning their beloved M8 
> >> into a paperweight.  I may give it a go this evening.
> >>
> >> All the best,
> >>
> >>
> >> Mark
> >>
> >> red735i@earthlink.net wrote:
> >>     
> >>> I do not own an M8 nor any other digital camera of consequence.  
> >>> However I 
> >>>       
> >> find it incredible that ANYONE would upgrade to a new SW revision on 
> >> their 
> >> camera on the first day it is available.  ( or computer, or TV set or 
> whatever).
> >>     
> >>> I believe you should allow others to bulk field test the SW, find any 
> faults, 
> >>>       
> >> and give the company a chance to fix it.  Then, and only then, is it 
> >> safe to 
> >> downlaod the SW into my camera ( computer, etc.).
> >>     
> >>> Let alone a pro that depends on the thing to actually work to earn an 
> >>>       
> >> income.....
> >>     
> >>> Amazing.....
> >>>
> >>> Frank
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
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> >> -- 
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Mark Pope,
> >> Swindon, Wilts
> >> UK
> >>
> >> Homepage http://www.monomagic.co.uk
> >> Picture a week (2008): 
> >> http://www.monomagic.co.uk/index.php?gallery=paw/2008
> >>                (2007): 
> >> http://www.monomagic.co.uk/index.php?gallery=paw/2007
> >>
> >>
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> >
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