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Subject: [Leica] Lux 21 and 24 Lens Pictures....
From: len-001 at verizon.net (Leonard Taupier)
Date: Sat Sep 13 06:39:51 2008
References: <C4F0E0F4.31F51%mark@rabinergroup.com> <DBDF09F5-147C-4D3E-B0EC-EEE501AB0BF6@frozenlight.eu> <FC83806256804857807023E4616FB6EC@dadquad> <930DF065-9B1E-4487-966A-F5202D25FE0F@verizon.net> <8C9943DF-10C9-4C3F-85EF-2CF5F841A362@telefonica.net>

Hi Luis,

I use the Noctilux at every lens stop. If you were to have a Canon  
system with the 50mm f1.2 and the 85mm f1.2 you would think even the  
Noctilux is small. So the size doesn't bother me. For me it is very  
necessary for my museum photos in poor lighting. I like to take  
photos of very old items like George just showed.

I have many 50's as well and use them all. After the Noctilux my  
favorite is the Rigid Summicron, Summitar and current Summicron. I  
also have the 75mm Summilux and have had Don adjust it as well. It  
produces beautiful images.

Best Regards,
Len


On Sep 13, 2008, at 9:21 AM, Lluis Ripoll wrote:

> Hi Len,
>
> I've never tried a Noctilux, if I had one, I think rarrey I'll use  
> it at 1:1, for me it already difficult accurate focusing at 1,4. I  
> don't know if it quality justifies the price (for the "old" ones).  
> As you say it is abig lens, the Summilux 75 too and I enjoy very  
> much it, I don't think I need a Nocti.
>
> On the 50 range I have a lot of lenses, probabky no so many as  
> Jeffery, but I'm really pleased with my Summilux chrome from 1966  
> and the Rigid Summicron..., and others.
>
> Saludos cordiales
> Lluis
>
>
> El 13/09/2008, a las 15:04, Leonard Taupier escribi?:
>
>> I can't imagine any Leica user that wouldn't be pleased when new  
>> lenses are an improvement over the older models. The current  
>> Noctilux is selling for around $6K if you can find one. I bought  
>> mine new the 5th of January, 2006 for the 2005 list price of  
>> $3400. It cost me an additional $90 for Don Goldberg to fix the  
>> back focus issue. The photos from this lens and the M8 are  
>> sparkling and much better then before the adjustment. It is now my  
>> favorite lens and I'm thinking of selling the 50 Summilux Asph  
>> which does have a slight back focus issue. I have the Summicron if  
>> I need a smaller lens. Even if the new Noctilux could cook my  
>> breakfast and do the laundry, for $6k, $8k or $11K, it can stay in  
>> a museum or on a collectors shelf for all I care.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Len
>>
>>
>> On Sep 13, 2008, at 3:50 AM, Geoff Hopkinson wrote:
>>
>>> No doubt that will mean focus shift is addressed too.
>>> You have to imagine that the results from them won't please fans  
>>> of the old
>>> Nocti (and of course they won't be exactly inexpensive)!
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Geoff
>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman/e
>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/gh/
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Lux 21 and 24 Lens Pictures....
>>>
>>> Mark, yes, that is exactly what the Polish text says, full quality
>>> wide open, stopping down only impacts DOF. Also, regarding the
>>> Summiluxes, they claim to have corrected vignetting and  
>>> distortion to
>>> the point of being invisible.
>>>
>>> The mag in question is quite a serious one, so I have no doubt  that
>>> both the info and the pictures are real.
>>>
>>> Nathan
>>>
>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>> Alicante, Spain
>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu
>>> http://www.greatpix.eu
>>> http://www.nathanfoto.com
>>>
>>> Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0
>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
>>> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sep 13, 2008, at 9:16 AM, Mark Rabiner wrote:
>>>
>>>> Where there's a slow one too
>>>> LEICA ELMAR-M 24 mm f/3.8 ASPH.
>>>> Which is what I wanted in my holiday stocking.
>>>> Compact
>>>> They seem to be saying that wide open at 3.8 you are already  
>>>> getting
>>>> your
>>>> sharpest specs and then stopping down you're just getting more  
>>>> depth
>>>> of
>>>> field you'd not do that for higher rez.
>>>> I had ask for f 4's.
>>>> But I'd say a 3.8 is close enough.
>>>> If this is for real.
>>>>
>>>> If its not its got me fooled.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Leica quality with no compromises.
>>>>
>>>> ME I don't consider a slow lens it be a compromise in anything.
>>>> Its just a 3.8 lens.
>>>> Its what you'd pick when you don't need a fast lens and you do need
>>>> top
>>>> quality and a lightweight compact optic.
>>>>
>>>> This is exactly the combination I normally need.
>>>> And I think there's a market for it too.
>>>> As in lots of other people wanted it too.
>>>>
>>>> The proof is in the pudding and time will tell.
>>>> I think this kind of stuff is smart Leica stuff.
>>>>
>>>> In the catalog there was always Both a fast and slow option.
>>>> If they're bringing that back I think we'll see that's good for
>>>> everybody.
>>>> And good for the Leica company.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> mark@rabinergroup.com
>>>> Mark William Rabiner
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> From: Frank Travel <red735i@earthlink.net>
>>>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
>>>>> Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 23:46:04 -0700
>>>>> To: 'Leica Users Group' <lug@leica-users.org>
>>>>> Subject: [Leica] Lux 21 and 24 Lens Pictures....
>>>>>
>>>>> Apparently on the Leica Poland page....
>>>>>
>>> <http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Ffotopolis.pl 
>>> %2Findex.p
>>>>> hp%3Fn%3D7823&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&sl=pl&tl=en>
>>>>>
>>>>> With translation into English, almost.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you want to read the original Polish version....
>>>>> http://fotopolis.pl/index.php?n=7823
>>>>>
>>>>> These are big Diameter lenses......   about the same overall size
>>>>> as a 75
>>>>> Lux....
>>>>>
>>>>> Frank
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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