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Subject: [Leica] Good stills AND videos?
From: imagist3 at mac.com (Lottermoser George)
Date: Sun Jul 20 07:04:38 2008
References: <7FEA42BD-489A-4AB7-B754-A60761F7032B@bex.net> <a3f189160807200610u2bd90c22vee9af1a98798f5ef@mail.gmail.com>

this would be the one that gives top quality in still and movement
<http://www.red.com/>
;~)


Fond regards,
George

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On Jul 20, 2008, at 8:10 AM, Sonny Carter wrote:

> They are working on it . . .
>
> http://www.ambarella.com/news/press_releases/pr_01282008.htm
>
> On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 12:35 AM, Howard Ritter <hlritter@bex.net>  
> wrote:
>
>> OT, but maybe of general interest, and maybe answerable by someone  
>> with
>> more knowledge than I.
>>
>> I like to shoot both still and video targets of opportunity that I  
>> may
>> encounter in daily life. For this purpose I have two very nice  
>> pocketable
>> digital cameras that I like to carry with me or keep in the car, a  
>> Canon G9
>> still camera and a Sony HDR-TG1 miniature HDTV camcorder. Both are  
>> about the
>> same size and weight, of comparably high quality, autoeverything  
>> digital
>> point-and-shoot, recording to a memory card, and if both were  
>> manufactured
>> by Canon in the same quantities as the G9, both would cost about  
>> the same.
>> Much the same thing can be said for any of a few dozen other  
>> digital still
>> P&S cameras and at least a couple of miniature camcorders.
>>
>> The G9 takes excellent still pictures and as a bonus takes video. The
>> video, while serviceable, is comparatively crude and suitable only  
>> for
>> amusement and last resorts, not as the intentional permanent  
>> record of
>> important events.
>>
>> The TG-1 takes excellent high-def video and as a bonus takes  
>> stills. The
>> stills, while serviceable, are comparatively crude and suitable  
>> only for
>> amusement and last resorts, not as the intentional permanent  
>> record of
>> important events.
>>
>> WHY?
>>
>> Why doesn't anyone produce a camera of comparable size that will take
>> stills of the quality of the G9's and HD videos of the quality of the
>> TG-1's? Admittedly the sensor chips are much different, 12 Mpix v.  
>> about 2
>> Mpix, and the larger chip of the G9 can't readily be read out at  
>> the 30 fps
>> demanded by video. However, a central 16:9 rectangle of the G9's  
>> 4:3 chip,
>> comprising about 8.3 Mpix and extending very nearly the full width  
>> of the
>> chip, could be "binned" 2x2 for readout, in order to give it  
>> functionally
>> the 2,073,600 pixels of the HDTV picture. This seemingly can't be  
>> beyond the
>> limits of affordable technology, so why isn't it being done? It's  
>> logical
>> and do-able, and would be a boon to people like me.
>>
>> Surely the big mfrs aren't so crass as not to make dual-purpose  
>> cameras
>> simply because this would dent their sales...instead offering  
>> cameras that
>> do one thing well and the other thing not so well, because  
>> everyone else's
>> camera does, but not well enough to deter purchases of the other  
>> type of
>> camera by those who need to do the other thing well also, thereby  
>> preserving
>> profits?
>>
>> Never mind.
>>
>> --howard
>>
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>
>
>
> -- 
> Regards,
>
> Sonny
> http://www.sonc.com
> Natchitoches, Louisiana
> USA
>
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In reply to: Message from hlritter at bex.net (Howard Ritter) ([Leica] Good stills AND videos?)
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