Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2008/07/16
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Best,simon jessurun,amsterdam,the netherlands On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 11:38 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark@rabinergroup.com> wrote: > Megapixel Overkill!! > Dpreview has announced a thing where they will be telling you the thing > they > are calling "Pixel Density" * for all new digital cameras and backs coming > out. > Because even with these guys all you see easily up front is the MG > megapixel > number - as if that's what defines a device. > > Which is like saying in the film world my Olympus Pen F half frame is > better > than your Leica M full frame became mine comes packed with a pro pack of > Plus X > and you're shooting Tri X. > Nope. > > Cramming pixel grabbers or slow film rez together is great in a pinch but > in > the end what's going to have more effect is acreage acreage acreage. > The next format up. > The combination of these two things combined in digital could be called PD. > The Heartbreak of PD; Pixel Density. > Which is what DP Dpreview is calling it. > So mind your PD's on your DP. > And expect the same with the LL Luminous Landscape and all similar > pretenders. > > In the past year we've heard tell on DP & LL of many a pocket pixel grabber > which has upped its MP count on its latest incarnation and downed its > quality. > Noise! I say with a capital N!!. > MUSH! I say to you! > > BIGGER NUMBERS! Says their marketing departments. > > So if the medium format backs are 40 or 50 or 60 MPs I'm not sweating it. > I have prints I carry around which are printed at such low resolutions that > I've had to resolve not to tell anyone what those numbers are. Not even > myself. If I remembered I'd have to kill myself. > > I'll need a side by side billboard to billboard comparison with Leitz > binoculars to see in the real world what these numbers might really mean. > By > the side of the road. With birds tweeting. > What they may mean is SHOOT LARGE FORMAT. > Larger than medium format. > You know; swings and tilts. Dark cloth. > > In the end what applies to film seems to also apply to digital. > > For any job the best camera is the heaviest camera you can carry. > When you get home: Tiger Balm. > > > They same dumbness which makes people think a 12mp point and shoot compares > with a 12mp DSLR with a sensor size 6 times physically bigger also applies > to high end medium format work. > > That fact that a sensor is out now which really is about the same size as > 645 is the big news. > A shame those PR people blew it by blurring it a bit too much as its not > quite the same. > And when something is not the same. Its not the same. > > So you'd NOT say "finally a true 645 sensor" > You'd say' Finally a sensors which is virtually 645! > Then you are not lying. And you're covering your but. > > "darned close to 645!" today only! For you only! > > > * Pixel Density: when Moore is less > http://www.dpreview.com/news/0807/08070301pixeldensity.asp > > > mark@rabinergroup.com > Mark William Rabiner > > > > > From: Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr@gmail.com> > > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org> > > Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 10:17:45 -0500 > > To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org> > > Subject: Re: [Leica] 50 Meg Kodak sensor - maybe this is what's happening > > behind the doors at Solms: > > > >> From British Journal Of Photography: > > > > Title: *Phase One announces full-frame medium format back* > > Feature: *Daily News* > > Date: *14 July 2008* > > > > One week after the first 50 million pixel medium format camera was > announced > > by Hasselblad, Phase One has topped it with the launch of a 60.5 million > > pixel resolution digital back. > > > > Phase One has announced the P 65+ digital back and the P 65+ camera > system, > > which are based on Sensor+ CCD technology co-developed with Dalsa > > Semiconductor. > > > > The systems are the first to reach the 60.5 million pixel resolution > mark. > > > > The chip platform offers photographers upgradeable CCD functions, > ensuring a > > longer lifespan for their digital back investments. > > > > 'Photographers need real reasons to upgrade past 39 million pixel digital > > backs,' said Henrik H?konsson, CEO of Phase One. 'Real value includes > higher > > resolution but also requires new functions, faster operation, higher > quality > > through expanded sensitivity, increased dynamic range, better results in > the > > studio or on location and a better longer-term investment. I believe we > are > > able to achieve this and more with our Sensor+ technology.' > > > > The Phase One P 65+ is the first digital back and camera system to take > > advantage of the new Sensor+ design and is claimed to be the world's > first > > full-frame capture system based on actual 645 film format. The P 65+ > > provides the largest live capture area available with coverage of 53.9mm > x > > 40.4mm ? enabling full viewfinder coverage thus no need for lens > > magnification. > > > > The P 65+ sensor format provides 20 percent more live area compared to 39 > or > > 50 Megapixel, 48mm x 36mm chips currently delivering or announced. Sensor > > resolution is 60.5 million pixel with 8984x6732 active pixels achieving > 180 > > MB, 8 bit RGB files. > > > > The P 65+ also offers captures at 1fps, reduction of Moir? artifacts, > next > > generation Lens+ and Focus+ technologies and a 12.5 f-stops of dynamic > > range. > > > > More technical details of Sensor+ technology will be available at the > > Photokina trade show in September 2008. Camera shipments with P 65+ > digital > > back are expected to begin before the end of the year. > > > > The P 65+ digital back will retail at $39,900, while the P 65+ camera > system > > will start at $41,990. Advance orders are available now. For more > > information, visit www.phaseone.com. > > > > > > > > -- > > Regards, > > > > Sonny > > http://www.sonc.com > > Natchitoches, Louisiana > > USA > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >