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Subject: [Leica] IMG: OT Equip - Lime Kiln Park
From: rgacpa at yahoo.com (Bob Adler)
Date: Mon Jun 23 19:22:26 2008

I've posted the sharpened images with those that are only sharpened with CS3 
when downsizing to web size (bicubic sharpener). These originated as .dng 
files from VueScan: 437mb files downsized to a few hundred kb. I really 
didn't do much else to them. I don't see much of a difference between the 
non-sharpened version and the original posted.
I've made them a bit bigger for easier comparison; they take a bit to load, 
but once in your cache it's quick switching back and forth. The original 
files have a title at the top; as said, these were sharpened with 
PixelGenius' web sharpener plugin for 800pixel size images. The untouched 
files (at least only downsized) have no title.
Curious as to what you think. As Geoff said, the detail in the scans is 
tremendous and the prints (at least the 17x22 prints) are not overly sharp 
IMO. Of course the equipment and technique add much to sharpness (tripod, 
leaf shutter, slimey fudge with the Flexbody)...
Again, curious as to opinions,
Bob
Oh yes, http://www.raflexions.com/LPK2

?Bob Adler
Palo Alto, CA
http://www.raflexions.com



----- Original Message ----
From: Geoff Hopkinson <hoppyman@bigpond.net.au>
To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 7:10:45 PM
Subject: RE: [Leica] IMG: OT Equip - Lime Kiln Park

Mark, I only can observe any 'crunchiness' in the kiln interior two shots
(which have lots of sharp edges). The first five especially are delicious
medium format Velvia to my eye. It may be too that the original superb
resolution (plus the contrasty medium) as well as the scanner all contribute
to so much minute detail that it needs managing. That's a quality problem to
have, right there. Did you notice how many of these are the full frame with
no crop at all, too? Bob has the same sharpening regime as I do, so maybe
that?s why it appeals to me! Anyhoo it is very much more subtle and superior
to anything easily achieved with unsharp mask. When you get down to these
low resolution web versions the effect is more distinct, certainly. Actually
you can vary that too with choice of edge selection, opacity of that
adjusting layer and original capture sharpening routine. Sort of involves a
call on how much impact you want on the web versions too. Holding prints in
your hands will always be a different story, as you know.

Cheers
Geoff
http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman/e
http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/gh/

-----Original Message-----
Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: OT Equip - Lime Kiln Park

It does look like instead of unsharp mask you are using a new third party
high tech algorithm rich borrowed from the CGI folks SHARPENING FROM HELL!!!
AND LOTS OF IT!!! For a whole new look.
I'd move back from it by half or two thirds.
And would love to see the stuff as well from the FP4.
Again less jacked up.



mark@rabinergroup.com
Mark William Rabiner



> From: Bob Adler <rgacpa@yahoo.com>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
> Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 19:59:24 -0700 (PDT)
> To: Leica Enthusiasts Group <leica@freelists.org>, Leica Users Group
> <lug@leica-users.org>
> Subject: [Leica] IMG: OT Equip - Lime Kiln Park
> 
> After?Yosemite?in April/May, attention turned back to?Big Sur. About
an?hour
> south of the town?of Big Sur is a?California State Park, Lime Kiln. If you
> drive in and?walk down to the ocean, it's completely uninspiring.?The
first
> time we did that and just got back in the vehicle and continued on.
> ?
> Next time, on a tip from a co-worker, we went the other way, deep into a
> beautiful redwood forest with at least 3 major streams. One ends at a 100
foot
> high waterfall which I didn't shoot. It's not a regular waterfall with a
> couple of torrents showering down; it has about 100 little falls that fan
out
> from the top so the bottom of the falls is as wide as the falls are high.
Jim
> Brick has some good shots of it, after climbing like a mountain goat which
I
> wasn't about to do.
> ?
> Another stream goes up to the lime kilns. These are mammoth kilns built in
the
> late 1800s to extract lime from the limestone. There are?3 of them, each
about
> 30 - 40 feet high; steel turrets falling apart in these beautiful
overgrown
> redwood forests. How they built these monstrosities way up on this hill in
the
> middle of nowhere and how they got the lime stones up and resultant lime
back
> down is?beyond me.
> ?
> The third major stream is just a beautiful walk going nowhere; my kind of
> place...
> ?
> http://www.raflexions.com/LKP
> ?
> Hope you enjoy?these. Certainly worth a walk?if you're ever in the area,
> Bob
> ?
> P.S. - Tech stuff: Hasselblad (flex and 203), Velvia 50 and FP4 taken with
> various combinations of apprx. 40lbs of gear muled around on my back...
> ?Bob Adler
> Palo Alto, CA
> http://www.raflexions.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
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