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Subject: [Leica] "Budget" full frame Nikon SLR
From: leicachris at worldnet.att.net (Chris Williams)
Date: Fri Jun 20 07:38:32 2008
References: <CF2B1B59C6624D51BC48481232468942@xyw> <C4802804.113B3%mark@rabinergroup.com> <000201c8d25a$d33b0810$79b11830$@net><7D25B215-3044-4EF0-985A-659EB42C6476@comcast.net><001701c8d28b$d933d900$8b9b8b00$@net> <766E57D0-A770-4360-B3E2-6191D6C7BC33@comcast.net>

Pick up a PDN magazine, and you'll see ad stock,wedding images, and 
commerical shots all have one thing in common. They all have darkened 
corners now. I don't think the vignette is really an issue.

Chris

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Leonard Taupier" <len-1@comcast.net>
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 8:35 AM
Subject: Re: [Leica] "Budget" full frame Nikon SLR


> Frank,
>
> In the case of the 10.5mm fisheye, the image you get on a full frame 
> digital camera or a film camera looks kinda like a clearly defined 
> keyhole in the middle of the frame. Other DX lenses like the 18-200  zoom 
> do not fill the frame at the wide end. The 1.5x crop with these  two 
> lenses is the only practical solution if you have a large number  of 
> photos to process. You are not losing information with the crop  because 
> there is none to lose.
>
> The vignetting I mentioned is on full frame, older lenses, like the  AFS 
> 17-35mm when used on the D3. The vignetting on this lens is  unacceptable 
> for a professional lens which this is. To a lesser  degree the AFS VR 
> 70-200 lens has the same problem.
>
> Len
>
>
> On Jun 20, 2008, at 12:12 AM, Frank Filippone wrote:
>
>> I guess that while your explanation makes perfect sense, in practice:
>> if I have the choice of either having a bigger file with more data  in it 
>> to
>> decide later, on my computer screen what I want to crop,
>> why would I want to initially crop in the camera and maybe miss 
>> something in
>> the heat of shooting?
>>
>> Vignetting in easily cropped out later...... which is the issue  with DX
>> lenses used on an FX body ( if I have the nomenclature correct...)
>>
>> I am still missing something.....
>>
>> Frank Filippone
>> red735i@earthlink.net
>>
>>
>>
>> The reason to publish FX and DX specs is the full frame Nikons can
>> use the Nikon Dx lenses that were released before the full frame
>> cameras came out. The D3 can automatically switch to DX mode when
>> these lenses are used. Nikon hardly ever obsoletes their lenses. As
>> Chris mentioned he can use his 10.5 MP fisheye on his D3 even though
>> it was designed for the 1.5 X crop bodies.
>>
>> Len
>>
>>
>> On Jun 19, 2008, at 6:21 PM, Frank Filippone wrote:
>>
>>> Question:
>>>
>>> There appears to be a trend to publish the image (pixel) sizes of
>>> the image
>>> both for FX and DX formats....
>>>
>>> Why would any rational person use a DX ( smaller) format if he had  the
>>> larger format available to him?  ( It is called cropping..... in old
>>> fashioned speak)
>>
>>
>>
>>
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