[Leica] question on paper profiling

[hoppyman at bigpond.net.au (Geoff Hopkinson)]

I use the 3800 with custom professional profiles for colour and the ABW mode
for BW. I only use a couple of paper types. Perfect for my purposes.
I have Quadtone RIP but haven't tried it for the 3800 as I am happy with the
other paths.
I saw this demonstrated at length at the PMA show here recently. It will
handle monitor and printer profiling. Very intuitive interface FWIW.
http://www.colormunki.com/
Very useful profile and other info on my printer and colour guy's site. I
think I have sent links to you off list previously.
http://www.imagescience.com.au/index.html



Cheers
Geoff
http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman/e
http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/gh/

-----Original Message-----
Subject: Re: [Leica] question on paper profiling

Ken,
I think a RIP will usually give you a better output, visually and
technically, than a non-RIP solution.?So that's the first?decision you need
to make. Most "custom" profilers will ask you to send in a target, they'll
measure it and send you back the ICC profile. With a RIP that you build the
profile, first you linearize it, then you print targets and measure them.
The?linearization process, as I understand it, ensures that you have
a?consistent output throughout your tonal scale for?C, M, Y and K.?This
essentially maximizes the?tonal gradations for your printer. Add that a RIP
has more control over output than most software packages (e.g., CS3) and you
have a better looking print IMO. I've done both.
So,?in a nut shell, from least expensive/time consuming to most:
1. Have custom profiles built for you; repeat as needed.
2.Purchase ImagePrint, which provides you with a RIP and canned profiles,
but you can't make your own profiles.
3.?Make your own ICC profile by buying a spectrophotometer (apprx. $1,400
for?one that will?work consistently well), but you print through your
application, not a RIP
4.?Buy a RIP that?comes with some?profiles, but allows you to create your
own?for any paper or?inkset. You?need #3 above plus the RIP software (apprx.
$700 for?Colorburst, which is what I use). Total cost for a <17" printer =
apprx. $2,100; not cheap.

I love my Colorburst. The documentation truly stinks, but they have good
people to walk you through the process, and when you've done it once, it's
easy to repeat.
Hope this helps some.
Best,
Bob
?Bob Adler
Palo Alto, CA
http://www.raflexions.com



----- Original Message ----
From: Ken Carney <kcarney1@cox.net>
To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 5:51:59 PM
Subject: [Leica] question on paper profiling

I would like to try to tap the intel of the LUG on this possibly OT
question.? I am thinking about buying an Epson 3800.? Now I have an Epson
2200 with ImagePrint 6.0, and an R1800 with custom profiles.? I like
ImagePrint, and I see IP 7 for the 3800 is $900.? I have been looking at
some hardware/software profiling solutions for not much more than that, but
have no experience with any of them.? Do any of you have experience with
paper profiling solutions in that price range?? My thought is that with my
own profiling gear, I can create profiles for any printer/paper, for my
printer as opposed to the printer the custom profile maker has.? Any
thoughts appreciated!

Ken


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