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Subject: [Leica] Re: IMG: May Nawlins Wedding #1 now TX
From: kididdoc at cox.net (Steve Barbour)
Date: Tue May 27 10:23:49 2008
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On May 27, 2008, at 9:12 AM, Chris Williams wrote:

> LOL!
>
> I went to school in TX for one year. Our history book was a Texas  
> History book. Forget the rest of the world....
>
> The school had 3 cafeterias and served McDonald's. Kids were dropped  
> off in limos and Mercedes. This was the mid 80's right before they  
> lost the oil money.
>
> The most bizarre place I've ever lived, and we've lived in  
> Spain,UK,Egypt,Turkey,Chile, Pennsylvania,Alabama,Florida, and  
> Louisiana.



this explains everything,

Steve


>
>
> Chris
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Barbour"
> Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: May Nawlins Wedding #1
>
>
>> now I feel like I know more than most Texans...:-)
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
>> On May 27, 2008, at 8:50 AM, Emilio Perea wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 08:12:41AM -0700, Steve Barbour wrote:
>>>> On May 26, 2008, at 1:19 PM, Peter Klein wrote:
>>>>> Just one thing I wanna know, and forgive my cultural  
>>>>> ignorance.   What
>>>>> does the crooked "two fingers" sign in picture #55 mean?
>>>>
>>>> I wonder too,
>>>
>>> It's the "TCU football sign"
>>>
>>> Paul Burka's old article on Texas Monthly:
>>>
>>> Football Hand Signals
>>>
>>> The Southwest Conference may not have the best teams, but it does  
>>> have
>>> the best school signs.
>>>
>>> Blame it all on an Aggie named Pinky Downs.
>>> A 1906 Texas A&M graduate, Downs was a member of the school's  
>>> board of
>>> regents from 1923 to 1933. He was the kind of Aggie who wore a  
>>> maroon
>>> tie every day and who prodded the school into spending an extra   
>>> $10,000
>>> so that its new swimming pool would be longer than the one at the
>>> University of Texas. When the Aggies had a yell practice before  
>>> the  1930
>>> TCU game, Downs naturally was there.  "What are we going to do  
>>> the  those
>>> Horned Frogs?" he shouted. His muse did not fail him. "Gig 'em,   
>>> Aggies!"
>>> he improvised, appropriating a term form frog hunting. For  
>>> emphasis,  he
>>> made a fist with his thumb extended straight up. The Southwest
>>> Conference had its first hand sign.
>>>
>>> The primordial image of sticking frogs with a spear captured the   
>>> essence
>>> of Aggieness--a good ol' farm boy who was not so much   
>>> unsophisticated as
>>> anti-sophisticated. When other schools later developed their own  
>>> hand
>>> signs, the signals likewise started out as visual representations of
>>> school mascots. But they soon evolved into more. All those horns  
>>> (long
>>> and frog), claws (bear and cougar), and the rest have become totems,
>>> symbols of belonging to a tribe. Or a sect: They are, to borrow a   
>>> phrase
>>> from The Book of Common Prayer, "an outward and visible sign of an
>>> inward and spiritual grace." In Texas it still matters what school  
>>> you
>>> went to and who won the last game. That is why the Southwest   
>>> Conference,
>>> defiled though its reputation may be, remains the best habitat  
>>> for  hand
>>> signals since charades. Of the nine SWC schools, more have hand  
>>> signs
>>> (seven) than NCAA investigations (six). For that matter, one school,
>>> SMU, has more hand signs than football teams.
>>>
>>> For a quarter of a century after Pinky Downs's moment of  
>>> inspiration,
>>> the Aggies had a monopoly on official gestures. But by 1955   
>>> archrival UT
>>> had fallen on hard times, made harder by a corresponding rise in the
>>> fortunes of A&M. A UT cheerleader named Harley Clark syllogized: (1)
>>> A&M has a hand sign, (2) A&M is winning, (3) UT has no hand sign,
>>> therefore (4) UT is losing. (Such reasoning prowess would later lead
>>> Clark, as an Austin judge in 1987, to conclude that the state's  
>>> system
>>> of financing public schools was unconstitutional.) At a pep rally   
>>> before
>>> the TCU game, Clark held up his right hand in a peculiar way. The   
>>> index
>>> and little fingers were sticking up, while the thumb held down the  
>>> two
>>> interior digits--the head of a Longhorn, Clark said. The creation   
>>> proved
>>> not to be the immediate answer to UT's football plight, however, as
>>> signless TCU won the next day, 47-20.
>>>
>>> Once A&M and UT had hand signs, everyone else wanted one. Even  
>>> before
>>> 1955, SMU students had been raising their index and middle  
>>> fingers  in a
>>> generic V for victory. By the late fifties, Mustang rooters had   
>>> changed
>>> the meaning to . . . pony ears.
>>>
>>> Baylor was next. In 1960 cheerleader Bobby Schrade came up with  
>>> the  idea
>>> of holding the hand aloft with all five fingers curved to suggest  
>>> a  bear
>>> claw. Only alcohol had a harder time getting accepted on the Baptist
>>> campus. For twelve years students and administrators argued  
>>> whether  the
>>> sign was sufficiently dignified before it was formally blessed in   
>>> 1972.
>>>
>>> When the University of Houston was seeking admission to the  
>>> conference
>>> in 1972, cheerleaders decided that U of H needed a hand sign, too.  
>>> The
>>> result--the UT sign with the middle finger added--officially   
>>> represents
>>> a cougar claw; unofficially, it indicates the students' attitude   
>>> toward
>>> UT.
>>>
>>> At Texas Tech, members of a spirit organization called the Saddle   
>>> Tramps
>>> decided in 1971 that the Red Raiders were getting left behind.   
>>> Emulating
>>> Raider Red, the costumed mascot who discharges a brace of large   
>>> pistols
>>> after each Tech score, the Saddle Tramps began brandishing thumb- 
>>> and-
>>> forefinger pistols of their own.
>>>
>>> TCU cheerleaders began experimenting with hand signs in 1980 on  
>>> the  way
>>> to a cheerleading camp in Tennessee. To represent Horned Frogs, they
>>> first tried the UT sign with the outer fingers bent at the  
>>> knuckles.  No
>>> good: it could be seen as an admission that TCU was only half as   
>>> good as
>>> UT. So they switched to bent index and middle fingers.
>>>
>>> Even Rice students occasionally use a sign, but it is not  
>>> pictured  here
>>> because university officials, suspecting that a middle finger poked
>>> outward has a meaning other than "peck 'em, Owls", have declined to
>>> sanction it. Not surprisingly, the only conference school without  
>>> a  sign
>>> is Arkansas, whose adherents have a state all to themselves and thus
>>> have no need to proclaim in sign language that they Belong.
>>>
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Replies: Reply from leicachris at worldnet.att.net (Chris Williams) ([Leica] Re: IMG: May Nawlins Wedding #1 now TX)
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Message from kididdoc at cox.net (Steve Barbour) ([Leica] IMG: May Nawlins Wedding #1)
Message from leicachris at worldnet.att.net (Chris Williams) ([Leica] Re: IMG: May Nawlins Wedding #1 now TX)