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Subject: [Leica] IMG: Yosemite too... and Raw exposure for dynamic range
From: simon.apekop at gmail.com (simon jessurun)
Date: Sun May 18 06:24:42 2008
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What's HDR?
simon

On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 2:20 PM, Geoff Hopkinson <hoppyman@bigpond.net.au>
wrote:

> We are looking at a web representation of Aram's photograph of course. And
> I'm still very jealous that Aram was there with waterfalls bursting and
> magnificent light everywhere. My usual long winded technical comment was
> trying to say that, in that HDR based jpg, the highlights and darks were
> clipped (highlights suffered especially) and my example is of a fairly
> contrasty shot with info preserved there in both by careful single exposure
> and processing.
> BW is an important area and of great interest to me too. Marty over here,
> whose technical expertise I greatly respect, is convinced that digital
> capture can't equal the highlight range of bw film for subtlety and detail.
> To the extent of total possible dynamic range, I understand, especially
> regarding the tonal curve from film vs. sensor. Yet the quality and
> flexibility of the Raw capture for me is so superior (and considering the
> limits of the print media) that in my mind there is no contest. HDR ought
> to
> make that better again in the right circumstance and technique. The HDR
> guys
> should keep on putting in the hard yards and convincing us. Boy the
> pressure
> will be on when I take my M8 to Yosemite!
>
> Cheers
> Geoff
> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman/e
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/gh/
> -----Original Message-----
> Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: Yosemite too... and Raw exposure for dynamic
> range
>
> Aram,
>
> I tend to agree with Hoppy. The HDR doesn't do much at all on my screen, in
> fact
> it tends to make the image appear dull, presumably because you are pulling
> back
> areas which would otherwise be blown or close to blwon. I can see it
> working
> in
> some circumstances, possibly in B&W it might prove very worthwhile. Here
> though...
>
> Perter Dzwig
>
> Geoff Hopkinson wrote:
> > Hi Aram,...I looked carefully at your HDR example of the falls. You guys
> haven't convinced me yet on HDR. (I haven't tried it for myself). I get
> that
> the principle is that you are trying to increase the recorded dynamic range
> by combining exposures and I can see that the falls shots is a very
> contrasty scene. Bu the highlights (water) and blacks are still clipped
> here
> (as shown)......
> > Geoff
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Subject: [Leica] IMG: Yosemite too...
> >
> > Bob.  Liked your photos.  I just got back from Yosemite, too.  We were
> there
> > from April 28 To May 2.  Wasn't the weather just great?  Here are a few
> > shots of Yosemite falls I took.
> >
> >
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Aram/Yosspr08/Yosemite-falls_HDR2.jpg.html
> >
> >
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Aram/Yosspr08/yosemite-falls-4204-Edit.jpg
> .
> > html  Just love that dead tree.
> >
> >
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Aram/Yosspr08/yosemite_falls-4201.jpg.html
> >
> >
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Aram/Yosspr08/yosemite_falls-4194.jpg.html
> >
> > The first one was using the HDR of Photoshop.
> >
> > I'll be posting more later.  Just got back 3 days ago from a long return
> > home.
> >
> > Comments and criticism welcome.
> >
> > Aram
>
>
>
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Replies: Reply from hoppyman at bigpond.net.au (Geoff Hopkinson) ([Leica] IMG: Yosemite too... and Raw exposure for dynamic range)
In reply to: Message from leicar at q.com (Aram Langhans) ([Leica] IMG: Yosemite too...)
Message from hoppyman at bigpond.net.au (Geoff Hopkinson) ([Leica] IMG: Yosemite too... and Raw exposure for dynamic range)
Message from pdzwig at summaventures.com (Peter Dzwig) ([Leica] IMG: Yosemite too... and Raw exposure for dynamic range)
Message from hoppyman at bigpond.net.au (Geoff Hopkinson) ([Leica] IMG: Yosemite too... and Raw exposure for dynamic range)