Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2008/05/11
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Ted, So what do we amateur photographers from outside the US do? I'm afraid that my job as a surgeon stops me from keeping up with all this. Do I sign up to thei registration for 45 bucks or what? Charlie On 11 May 2008, at 17:33, Ted Grant wrote: > ORPHAN WORKS! One more time! > > > > Do you know what I find surprising on the LUG? Although I shouldn't > be. :-( > > > > Here we have a topic that potentially WILL affect every member on > the list > and their photography and not more than 3 members have posted a word. > > I'd have thought, certainly the American members of the crew > would've been > up in arms screaming their bloody heads off that a number of dimwit > government officials without a clue in how we value our photography > are > about to eliminate our rights as a photographer. Not only in the > USA, but > every photographer good, bad or ugly around the world! :-( > > And the babble goes on about some dinky toy camera piece or clouds. > > You folks better wake up before it's too late. > > And if you think it doesn't matter to you, have another thought the > next > time you post some indepth photography of a dying relative, a happy > faced > bride or one of your smiling children! Then find your pictures being > used in > some advertisement about "cheap funerals and hooker brides!" Or > whatever! > > Don't come back here crying "why didn't somebody do something about > this?" > > It's all here for you to read and fill out a form for USA members and > international members also. Hey I've sent mine! Where's yours? > > ted > > ============================= > > Subject: [Leica] Orphan Works - . HERE YOU ARE! A MUST READ > EVERYONE! :-( > > > > If you value your photography > > "YOU WILL READ THIS!" no matter where you live on this planet! > > > > This is for everybody to read regardless of what country you live > in! your > reputation and photography is at stake! > > > > Copied below are communications from fellow American & Canadian > > photographers in the past few days about this USA Orphan bill. > > > > 1/ > > Ted, > > Unfortunately, this opens the gate for any US person, museum, > corporation,agency, newspaper, school etc. etc. to basically "play > dumb" and > use images, illustrations, music etc. without permission granted if > the > "content" is found without info as to the creator. So, if one puts > their > images on the internet etc. without embedded metadata or even with > the data > > which can be stripped out - they don't face infringement penalties. > > > > The internet crosses all boundaries - political and otherwise. > > > > And yes, someone will no doubt make money in "registration" fees > that will > now be privatized if this bill should pass. It pretty much throws the > > Copyright Act of 1976 out the window. > > > > 2/ > > I just finished faxing letters to 5 different officials. I used the > link > > below for international artists. > > http://www.illustratorspartnership.org/01_topics/article.php?searchterm=0026 > 7 > > Here is a page of links that make letter writing easy for the US > shooters. > > http://capwiz.com/illustratorspartnership/home/ > > ========================= > > 3/ > > Ted > > As an add-on to ..comments,one will not only potentially be affected > by > omitting,or forgetting to include,copyright information. > > > > There is also the consideration that a number of free hosting sites > on the > web strip out metadata upon upload so you could have your ass hung > out to > > dry, in some cases, by posting a public gallery of images on the web. > > > > There is also the very real possibility that image metadata will > intentionally be stripped out by unscrupulous image users who will > then > play dumb and invoke the Orphan Works bill as a defense > > 4/ > > It has been said that the folks at Google are proponents of the > > bill.<<<<<<<<<<< > > 5/ > > PESO: > > For those who are concerned about the Orphan Works bill currently > before > Congress that will infringe your copyright to your own photos, there > is a > website by APA and several other organizations that gives you a > choice of > several editable or form letters to send to your Congress persons. > When you > fill in your address, it automatically sends the letters to the > correct > Congress members for your district. Please take action to prevent > this > reprehensible bill from passing. > > > > http://capwiz.com/illustratorspartnership/home/ > > > > You can download a PDF for more information: > > > > http://www.apanational.com/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=1 > > > > Please pass this on to anybody you think might be interested. > > > > 6/ > > FROM THE ILLUSTRATORS' PARTNERSHIP > > Take Action: Don't Let Congress Orphan Your Work > > > > THE ORPHAN WORKS BILL IS BACK. > > And this time the wheels have been greased for quick passage. > > > > Yesterday a revived Orphan Works Bill sailed through a House panel. > Today > the Senate bill will be marked up. These bills will expose any work > of art > to commercial infringement. This will include everything from > professional > paintings to personal photos placed on the net. > > > > The bills will coerce you to register your work with for-profit > registries > as a condition of protecting your copyrights. Any unregistered > pictures will > be subject to Orphan Works infringement. This is a radical departure > from > > international copyright law and normal business practice. > > > > If you wish to oppose this legislation, you must act now. We've set > up an > online site for anyone to e-mail their Senators and Representatives > with one > > click. This site is open to professional artists, photographers and > any > > member of the image-making public. > > > > We've provided sample letters from individuals representing different > sectors of the visual arts. Illustrators, photographers, fine artists, > reps,licensing firms,designers: > > > > If you're opposed to the Orphan Works act, this site is yours to use. > > For international artists and our colleagues overseas, we've > provided a > special link, with a sample letter and instructions as to whom to > write. > > > > 2 minutes is all it takes to write Congress and fight for your > copyrights. > > Go here: > > http://capwiz.com/illustratorspartnership/home/ > > <http://www.workbookinfo.com/util/link.jsp?e=2O_odGyvi8UHXsR_lt2roFsdB6xZXlt > > bdxFmlgit1zU0.A&s=3TVYIl7Y.A&v=4utMlfilzq7aP> > > Pick a sample letter or write your own. Type in your zip code. Your > letter > > will be automatically addressed to your congressman and senators. > Click and > send. > > For more information about the Orphan Works Act of 2008: > > > > IPA Statement to House Subcommittee March 20, 2008: > > http://www.illustratorspartnership.org/01_topics/article.php?searchterm=0026 > 1 > > <http://www.workbookinfo.com/util/link.jsp?e=3HAdVkraJdwEJ1VfAFh0qQB5Jm28mhS > > g8vMmAQDKkmsE.A&s=3TVYIl7Y.A&v=4utMlfilzq7aP> > > > > IPA Senate Mark-up Comments April 30, 2008: > > http://www.illustratorspartnership.org/ow_docs > > > > Geneva/ May 7, 2008 Orphan Works Bill Catches Global Attention/ > Intellectual > > Property Watch: http://www.ip-watch.org/weblog/index.php?p=1028 > > <http://www.workbookinfo.com/util/link.jsp?e=5uzLbHwXnNuOq9etWr5pFBScZ6JCaDC > > mVZvJ_oug91kAD-yjd_H1Dv2Sanlg-5UAN&s=3TVYIl7Y.A&v=4utMlfilzq7aP> > > > > MP3 Interview: http://www.sellyourtvconceptnow.com/orphan.html > > <http://www.workbookinfo.com/util/link.jsp?e=64PP59SAm7cQpRj4XiyzS9eD5BSPaUI > > JHs-n5teWI4NrrAmcByWTJ7UAY8caNfnpq&s=3TVYIl7Y.A&v=4utMlfilzq7aP> > > > > YouTube: http://youtube.com/watch?v=CqBZd0cP5Yc > > <http://www.workbookinfo.com/util/link.jsp?e=70MTu1udFRHALf64MuzT_mECenLX5b7 > > osl9KxhDYr_DDds3Sl9lqb9zmdn3lJCa-f&s=3TVYIl7Y.A&v=4utMlfilzq7aP> > > 6/ > > Here is a podcast on youtube discussing the "orphan works bill" that > is > > being discussed this week in the US Congress. Kind of frightening. > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqBZd0cP5Yc> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqBZd0cP5Yc > > > > ========================== > > -----Original Message---- > > From: slobodan dimitrov wrote: > >> Apart from from Ted has said, the following closet national- > >> socialists want to destruct intellectual property protections: > >> Getty and Corbis support the US senate version S.2913 Shawn Bentley > >> Orphan Works Act of 2008. > >> Senator Patrick Leahy (D-VT) is the bill's sponsor. Other members of > >> the Judiciary Committees are Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah), and in the >> House - > Rep. Howard Berman (D-Calif.), Rep. Lamar SMith (R-Texas). > >> The bill is also co-sponsored in the House by Committee Chairman > >> John Conyers (D-Mich) and Rep. Howard Coble (R-NC), and supported >> by Dianne > Feinstein (D-CA). > > Intellectual Property Protections do not work, or > > else a number of us Hove authors would be able to > > stop the renovated Hove from selling our works without permission or > the > payment of > > royalties. We are powerless and the vaunted EU > > "proteciton of the rights of the author" are essentially meaningless. > > ==================== > > Marc James Small offered: > > I came into this discussion late, and have no idea what this "Orphan > Works" > bill is about but I would automatically find myself opposing anytihng > > that drooling idiot from Vermont (well, Vermont seems to be a State > laden > with drooling idiots!), Leahy, would sponsor. What an embarrassment > that > > man is to the United States and to the Senate! > > Marc > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information