Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2007/09/22
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]On Sep 22, 2007, at 1:35 PM, Jerry Lehrer wrote: > Jay, > > I'd like to make you understand my (and some others )position on new > Leica gear. I vouchsafe to say that over 90 percent of new Leica gear > buyers are NOT members of the LUG. They are not interested in "street > photography" . they use their Leicas to take pictures of their > Bentleys or > Lamborginis.They would never consider buying a second hand camera or > lens. They shoot pics of their Eclipse Minijets( they are not yet > in the Gulfstream 5 class.) They do not take travel pictures, but some > of them are birdists with their R9s and loooong teles mit extenders. > > I am talking about the Leica owners I have met in my town, La Jolla. Jerry, if La Jolla is an average town, then Paris is an average city... and Grande Dame Veuve Cliquot is an average beverage... :-) Steve > They buy Leica stuff new just to have it, not to help a struggling > company. They neither know nor care about the company as an economic > entity > > Their used gear only hits the market when their estate sells it all. > You would be astounded at the estate sale prices I have paid for > mint gear. > > Your country's Leica people may be different, but I doubt it. > > Jerry > > > Ric Carter wrote: >> I buy used by necessity. >> >> My used buying usually helps fuel new buying. Much of the used >> stuff moved on this list is likely to raise money for an upgrade >> or to help pay for new equipment. >> >> Should we call it trickle up? >> >> ric >> >> >> On Sep 20, 2007, at 1:40 PM, Jayanand Govindaraj wrote: >> >>> Well, Sonny, if you decide that your photographic objectives are >>> best met by >>> Leica, you better try keeping them solvent. I think it will get more >>> difficult for them unless they move production to Asia. They >>> should do what >>> Nvidia does, become a design house, and get others to manufacture >>> their >>> products to whatever tolerances they want. In that case a lot >>> more money can >>> go into R&D. As they are structured at present, and at their >>> size, it looks >>> bleak IMHO. If the world economy does slide, they could be wiped >>> out. >>> Cheers >>> Jayanand >>> >>> On 9/20/07, Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> On 9/20/07, Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Well thats nice to know. If we want Leica to survive, we should >>>>> buy more >>>>> new. >>>> >>>> >>>> Um. Innovation, competition, and good marketing practice will >>>> allow >>>> Leica >>>> to survive. >>>> >>>> Do I charitably purchase a $2000 lens that I do not need so that >>>> some >>>> share-holders get a piece of it, and thus decide to invest further? >>>> >>>> Nope, I buy the bits I need, like an M8 and batteries, and a >>>> grip. That >>>> was >>>> not a purchase made in hopes Leica survives. These things >>>> further my >>>> photography. >>>> >>>> I truly believe Leica has seen the worst and wants to prevail. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Sonny >>>> http://www.sonc.com >>>> Natchitoches, Louisiana >>>> USA >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information