Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2007/09/06
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Jay, I believe that you are FOS. That is my opinion, I have already heard yours. Jerry Jayanand Govindaraj wrote: > The most dangerous intolerance is not Islamist, it is the political left - > Mao, Stalin & co killed huge swathes of their population, mostly under the > eyes of an inert and compliant world. I still see intolerance to an extreme > degree in the communists here in India. Terrorism of the present variety > can > only be done away with education, and job creation, which is notably absent > in the Islamic world. Do a couple of random murders and half a dozen people > put under police protection, make such a difference to your daily lives? > You > must be going soft. There are nutcases in all countries, but they are not > the norm. > Cheers > Jayanand > > > On 9/6/07, Nathan Wajsman <nathan@nathanfoto.com> wrote: > >> Sorry, but I disagree. I know it is politically correct to say these >> days that all fanatics are equally bad, but from a practical standpoint >> this is simply not the case. I cannot recall any terrorist incidents >> perpetrated by, say, fanatical Mormons or the Hassidim. While fanatical >> Baptists in the US have committed a few crimes such as shooting of an >> abortion doctor, these are isolated incidents. We should call a spade a >> spade. Within the past week terrorist plots have been uncovered in >> Denmark and Germany. Earlier this year, there were car bombs in the UK; >> then we have July 7th 2005 in London, March 11th 2004 in Madrid, >> September 11th 2001 in New York and Washington...the list goes on. Here >> in the Netherlands, religion may be freely criticized, but pick the >> religion you criticize carefully...a film director was murdered on the >> street in Amsterdam in 2005 for making a film criticizing Islam's >> treatment of women; an ex-Muslim politician of Somali origin, Hirsi Ali, >> was effectively hounded out of the country (she is in the US now) in >> 2006; and an anti-immigrant politician, Geert Wilders, is currently >> living under police protection for expressing anti-Koran views. >> >> So no, while on an intellectual level all fanatics may be equally >> idiotic, on a practical level there IS a difference between them, a >> difference quite significant to our daily lives here in the liberal West. >> >> Nathan >> >> Ric Carter wrote: >> >>> I fear you are right, Jay >>> >>> ric >>> >>> >>> On Sep 4, 2007, at 9:44 PM, Jayanand Govindaraj wrote: >>> >>> >>>> The real clash of >>>> civilisations is between the believers and the rest - the actual >>>> religion is >>>> immaterial..... >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> >>> >> -- >> Nathan Wajsman >> Almere, The Netherlands >> >> *Opportunistic Image Acquisition* >> >> General photography: >> http://www.frozenlight.eu >> http://www.nathanfoto.com >> http://www.greatpix.eu >> Picture-A-Week: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws >> Seville: http://www.frozenlight.eu/fotosevilla >> >