[Leica] I can't print my petunias!!

[kcarney1 at cox.net (Ken Carney)]

Peter,

I have had custom profiles made for my R1800, by inkjetart.com, and they
seem to be very accurate and are reasonably priced.  I doubt that you will
get to where you want to be by using the Epson profiles or paper
manufacturer profiles.  Soft-proofing is essential, as is a calibrated
monitor.  I check for out-of-gamut in soft-proofing view.  If you check for
out-of-gamut in just the PS monitor view, almost everything will be out of
gamut.  As has been mentioned, Srgb is a compressed color space.

I don't print that much color, but got the R1800 just for that use on
semi-gloss papers.  It is a fine printer, but needs the additional tweaking
noted.  Having said all that, this image will be a test to print.  I got a
reasonable soft-proof on Innova White Gloss, but a lot of the color was
still out of gamut.  But, another paper might be better.  You just have to
fiddle with it.

Ken

> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+kcarney1=cox.net@leica-users.org [mailto:lug-
> bounces+kcarney1=cox.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Peter Klein
> Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 2:02 AM
> To: lug@leica-users.org
> Subject: [Leica] I can't print my petunias!!
> 
> I wrote:
> >I just could not believe these petunias.  Even in the shade, they seemed
> >to be florescent.
> <http://gallery.leica-
> users.org/v/pklein/album170/L1001127UVPetunias.jpg.html>
> 
> My printer couldn't believe the colors, either.  I just tried to print the
> above picture, and the colors came out very different from the
> screen.  Instead of the florescent magenta-purple, I get very red
> flowers.  Red like a Poinsettia at Christmas.  The only place a few petals
> look purple is on the very left, at the top right, where the flowers are a
> little faded or shaded.  But not jaded.
> 
> Have I encountered the dreaded out of gamut conundrum? Did the ghost of
> Dr.
> Fourrier, immortalized in my print driver, take a look at the RGB numbers
> and refuse to transform?  "No way," he'd say. I'd overflow my
> register.  I'd divide by zero and disappear into a Black Hole.  And my cat
> would die!"
> 
> I had the same results on two different printers, an R200 and an
> R1800.  The R1800 did a little better, but had basically the same
> problem.  I printed from a 16-bit TIFF. I generally use sRGB color space
> for workflow simplicity.  Might I have a better chance of getting the
> colors right if I used Adobe RGB? Or if I tweaked the rendering intent?
> Or
> are the printers just not capable of reproducing this color?  Is this a
> case of The Effect of Out of Gamut Rays On Man-In-The-Moon Purple
> Petunias?
> 
> Seriously, this is not a huge deal, but I'm curious what to do about
> it.  This is only the second time I've encountered a color that totally
> weirded out my printer.
> 
> --Peter
> 
> 
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