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Subject: [Leica] Re: Armed America seen in Exeter
From: lindnich at tesco.net (lindnich@tesco.net)
Date: Tue Aug 14 13:20:05 2007
References: <200708141323.l7EDMJpv010669@server1.waverley.reid.org> <D9405885-B81F-4ECB-9CC5-63533AA70799@optonline.net>

Great, and thought provoking analysis of the British contribution to
the sad state of the world. Many would say that the US took up the
mantle of empire from Britain following WW2 as payment for the US
intervention against Hitler. I just wonder whether the US can lay
claim to anything original other than flight, Jazz and Kodachrome. Any
ideas?


BWs Gordon


Tuesday, August 14, 2007, 3:27:01 PM, you wrote:

LZ> On Aug 14, 2007, at 9:23 AM, Gordon wrote:

>> From: lindnich@tesco.net
>> Subject: [Leica] Armed americans seen in Exeter, England
>> To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
>> Message-ID: <294555533.20070814133846@tesco.net>
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>>
>> Kyle's book of course; in Waterstones books. I looks wonderful; truly
>> menacing to the rest of the planet, and very surreal. I must buy it.
>>
>>
>> --  Best Wishes,  Gordon Nicholson


LZ> If the Manchester Guardian runs true to form, there will soon be a  
LZ> spate of editorials and follow up letters lambasting the American gun
LZ> culture. Some will even blame the election of President Bush on the  
LZ> gun toting yahoos shown in Kyle's excellent book. This is ironic  
LZ> since every serious student of global politics knows that British  
LZ> actions of the 1920s through the 1940s re. the Middle East caused  
LZ> many of the problems Europe and the US are facing today.

LZ> The ambivalent feeling toward guns is of comparatively recent origin  
LZ> in the US. When I was a child in the rural Midwest in the late 1930s  
LZ> almost every family owned one or more guns, usually a shotgun and a  
LZ> small bore rifle. For a while the Red Ryder BB gun was the most  
LZ> sought after Christmas present in Indiana and Illinois. Young boys  
LZ> started out with BB guns at the age of 8 or so and graduated to 22s  
LZ> by their twelfth birthday. Boxes of 22 rimfire bullets cost 50 cents  
LZ> and were sold in every drugstore. Buying your first box of bullets  
LZ> was a rural coming of age ceremony.

LZ> Guns were part of American culture and history. Only half a century  
LZ> had elapsed since the closing of the frontier. The battle of Little  
LZ> Big Horn was in 1876 and the Shootout at the OK Corral was in 1881.  
LZ> Just two decades had passed since the end of the Great War. It was  
LZ> considered patriotic for all young men to learn to shoot. Gun  
LZ> ownership was clearly the secret to military preparedness. Men could  
LZ> come off the farm proficient in firearms. What enemy would dare to  
LZ> attack a well armed citizenry. Boy Scout camps taught gun handling.  
LZ> Every high school in a small town had a rifle team. Farmers paid teen
LZ> aged boys to shoot crows in their cornfields. For many the annual  
LZ> deer or turkey hunt was essential to a well fed holiday season. The  
LZ> NRA was a respected organization, not the butt of late night comic  
LZ> jokes.

LZ> The low population density of the US tended to reinforce the  
LZ> acceptance of guns in the national psyche. Once outside of big  
LZ> cities, much of the US landscape is rural with an abundance of small  
LZ> game. Deer and wild fowl hunting are major recreational activities.  
LZ> In some states school closes for a week during hunting season so  
LZ> fathers and sons can bond while shooting the Thanksgiving dinner. No  
LZ> shortage of game either. Because natural predators have been driven  
LZ> out of inhabited areas, there are more deer roaming the nation's  
LZ> woodlands than there were when the Indians owned the country.

LZ> But when the bulk of the US population became urban, guns were viewed
LZ> as the tools of bad guys. War was conducted with tanks and airplanes.
LZ> Bambi was a runaway movie hit. Thanksgiving dinner was bought in the  
LZ> supermarket. Too many presidents were assassinated or nearly  
LZ> assassinated and Moses led the NRA. People who had never handled guns
LZ> developed an unreasoning fear of the unknown.

LZ> The rate of gun ownership correlates poorly with the amount of social
LZ> violence in any culture. Israel and Sweden both require military  
LZ> reservists to keep their combat firearms at home in case of a quick  
LZ> mobilization. Yet the rate of domestic homicide in both countries is  
LZ> quite low. Sierra Leone, a country with one of the highest murder  
LZ> rates in the world, has relatively few guns but plenty of machetes.  
LZ> Two of the safest places in the USA are Vermont and New Hampshire,  
LZ> both states with the highest percentage of gun ownership in the  
LZ> country. If tough gun laws were the only answer, then Washington D.C.
LZ> and New Orleans would be havens of tranquility. In fact they are  
LZ> unreasonably dangerous.

LZ> The US "love affair" with guns has often been criticized by the  
LZ> foreign media, most notably the British press, as the precipitating  
LZ> cause of the high murder rate in some  cities. It is certainly true  
LZ> that the number of gun murders in the UK is relatively low but the  
LZ> domestic death rate in parts of Britain is almost as high as that in  
LZ> the US, save that the weapons of choice are cricket bats, broken  
LZ> Guinness bottles and assorted blunt objects. The editorials tend to  
LZ> ignore the fact that England has twice the rate of property crime as  
LZ> the US and four times the rate of auto theft.

LZ> Perhaps, as a London Times editorial suggested, the stratospheric  
LZ> crime rate in Britain is because there are too few guns. If home  
LZ> owners felt that they had a moral obligation to shoot housebreakers  
LZ> and thieves it might convince a few bad guys to think twice. Then  
LZ> Britons too could leave doors and cars unlocked - just like in Vermont.

LZ> Sorry for persevering on this topic. I just had to get it out of my  
LZ> system. Now I feel better. By the way, my car was stolen while living
LZ> in the UK.

LZ> Larry Z

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-- 
Best wishes,
 lindnich                            mailto:lindnich@tesco.net


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