Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2007/08/09
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]How so? I note that the MSNBC excerpt shows that the subjects are primarily white, and I ask whether it is the same in the book. I did not say Kyle purposefully not select non-white and in fact I did not say anything about it at all. SO how did *I* over react? I did not say Kyle is racist or anything like that. You guys jump the gun, so to speak. Not me. On Thu, 9 Aug 2007 grduprey@mchsi.com wrote: > Richard, > > When I read your post, I thought you were over reacting. We are way to > quick to pull the Race Card here in the US, and from my point of view that > is exactly what you were doing. > > Gene > > > -------------- Original message from Richard > <richard-lists@imagecraft.com>: -------------- > > > > With all due respect, Ted, you are over-reacting. > > > > I am just asking for an assessment, I am not saying whether the book > > is good or not based on this criteria or not. > > > > But you know what the funny thing is? > > > > Most "white folks" would never even notice things like that. > > > > Again, no comment on whether this is good or not. > > > > Just a comment. > > > > At 08:26 PM 8/8/2007, Ted Grant wrote: > > > > >Richard for crying out loud! > > > > > >Do you know how stupid this is? Dumb ass stupid, that's what!! > > > > > > > > > > > >Simply because Kyle didn't start out to shoot a book representing every > > >colour in the rainbow nor ethnic cross section!! Get real! When a book > > >idea > > >like this is born it's not to represent all the colours in the rainbow, > > >but > > >about people who volunteer their services to be photographed for a > > >potential > > >book about guns and folks who own them! > > > > > > > > > > > >This kind of tripe isn't any different than when Sandy Carter and I had > > >completed our book about women in medicine and the shooting was finished > > >after nearly a year and a half criss crossing North America in many > > >hospitals and medical centres. We received this same kind of bull shit > > >from > > >a writer who was asked to work on the book with us. > > > > > > > > > > > >As soon as she brought up.... "where are the handi-capped doctors and > > >nurses, there isn't enough colour representation, where are the Asians > > >etc > > >etc every damn BS line one could possibly imagine regarding all the PC > > >nonsense. Guess what? She was history instantaneously! Simply because > > >there's real life in the world and the way some folks would like to > > >have it! > > >However, never shall the twain meet as sorry as I am to write that at > > >the > > >moment! Maybe after 10 life times of 10 life times of the next 10 > > >generations of appreciating each others colour in the rainbow simply > > >because > > >we all give something to this world as messed up as it is! > > > > > > > > > > > >Damn Richard and you aren't helping one iota with your silly tripe! > > > > > > > > > > > >Right now don't anybody jump in with I'm a bigot! Simply because I've > > >always > > >been a champion for women to be equally treated and paid as men, colour > > >was > > >never a thing in my life because of the way I was brought up that we > > >are as > > >human beings all equal! > > > > > > > > > > > >How many of you have ever thought about relating to our human race in > > >this > > >fashion? > > > > > > > > > > > >Take every colour there is in our rainbow and each one makes a tiny cut > > >in a > > >finger! SURPISE WE ALL BLEED THE SAME COLOUR! Damn I bet not too many > > >ever > > >thought of it in that equaling fashion! So quite frankly that's how I > > >was > > >brought up to respect every other human being of different colour or > > >religion or whatever they wanted to be! The colour of their blood! > > > > > >Skin was just the cover colour, not the book inside! > > > > > > > > > > > >So when I read someone brings up this drivel about race-colour whatever > > >Richard is alluding to, I lose it! Yep the problem is real I don't deny > > >that, but what screws it up is when some one brings it up in such a > > >stupid > > >manner! It has no relation in this book as first published! > > > > > > > > > > > >Certainly where every colour, religion, size, male, female or whatever > > >one > > >wishes to call themselves, had the opportunity to VOLUNTEER to be in > > >Kyle's > > >book! Absolutely no discrimination whatsoever! Merely in the minds of > > >the > > >retarded! > > > > > > > > > > > >Similarly so in our book, "Women in Medicine." Sandy Carter and I > > >didn't go > > >around looking for black, coloured, white whatever doctors and nurses > > >came > > >in. Simply because we had all kinds of them doing the job of looking > > >after > > >all the folks who required medical attention regards of rainbow colour > > >and > > >we had them all in our coverage where ever they were giving their care > > >to > > >others!! Regardless of whatever or whomever! > > > > > > > > > > > >Nor did we look for ... "are you a handi-capped person medical > > >professional?" I will say the only single item we watched for was a, > > >are you > > >ready? "A PREGNANT DOCTOR OR NURSE WHO WAS SHOWING SHE WAS!" That was > > >it! > > >:-) Yes and there is one in the book! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > >As a matter of fact our wonderful book concept was originally suggested > > >by > > >one of the most understanding and professional women doctors or any > > >doctor, > > >male or female I've ever had the honour and privilege of knowing. And > > >Richard if you were astute enough you might buy our book and read this > > >doctor's forward! And be surprised! > > > > > > > > > > > >A lady of human class beyond real life, as wonderful as an angel could > > >be. > > >She just happened to be the Director of Nuclear Cardiology in a big > > >hospital > > >with a wonderful staff of many colours. And she was black! > > > > > > > > > > > >Thank you. > > > > > > > > > > > >What I really don't understand is .... > > > > > >"WHAT THE HELL DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH LEICA PHOTOGRAPHY?" And > > >Richard why > > >did you bring it up? > > > > > > > > > > > >Apart from the fact I'm bagged after being in front of TV cameras all > > >day on > > >the final shoot for the BRAVO TV programme to be released in October > > >about > > >the old guy! :-) Oh yeah and flaunting the Leica M8 in every scene! :-) > > >Awesome! ;-) But dang it sure was and has been fun! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > >ted > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Leica Users Group. > > >See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > // richard (This email is for mailing lists. To reach me directly, > > please use richard at imagecraft.com) > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >