[Leica] IMG: David

[hoppyman at bigpond.net.au (G Hopkinson)]

Barney, I usually upload pictures as lightly compressed (and sRGB) jpeg 
versions sized to about 800 to 1000 pixels across. Probably
I post them a little bigger than many people. That is big enough for a 
decent view on most monitors but still small enough for file
size and to make it unattractive to steal as a printable image. As you know 
the LUG gallery makes a smaller version from your post.
But it means that people can click on the option for the "full size" version 
if they would like to look more closely. 
Your picture is great! I am very keen on discussion on composition and 
tonality and Philippe often posts very thoughtful comments
with his opinions. I understand what you have done with the conversion and I 
really like your new crop, myself. The wonderful
modelling from the light direction and pleasing deeper shadows areas are 
part of what makes it work well as is the natural
relationship between the boy's concentration, his hand and the icecream 
maker.

Cheers
Hoppy

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Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: David


Hoppy,

This shot was taken in color with my M8 using the new v 1.107  
firmware. I really do think it's noise performance is much better. I  
used Photoshop Elements to remove the color from each of the two  
images which I posted. When I turn color into black and white I  
usually use Photoshop to darken the shadows and lighten the  
highlights. This usually has the effect of making the images look  
"darker". This is what I did to the first image. I didn't do this  
with the second, cropped image. The second version, in plain  
language, has been messed with less than the first. This is probably  
why they look different. The reason I did this was that the goal was  
to remove the darkness on the left side of the image and deliberately  
darkening it seemed counter productive.

I have a question for you. What size images should I post. I usually  
down size them to 690 x 430 pixels before I post them. I am not very  
knowledgeable about these things. If you could give me the right  
numbers I will be more than glad to post images at that size.

Have I come even close to answering your question?

Barney

On Aug 8, 2007, at 7:27 PM, G Hopkinson wrote:

> Philippe and Barney, will you please expand on your comments for  
> discussion?
> I did suggest that Barney try cropping out the dark foreground  
> shadows on the left edge and try a different colour toning of the
> grey.
>
> Barney's second version is greyscale. I can see that it is  
> appreciably lighter.
> Barney might like to tell us whether he has lightened the exposure  
> or if this is happened during conversion. I was saying that I
> thought it looked better "to my eye" meaning in my view, not that  
> the boy's eye was too dark!
>
> Philippe what are your thoughts on the crop to remove the OOF  
> foreground dark areas from the left?
> What about the removal of the background OOF wall decorations?
> What about the toning effect? I just thought that the brown effect  
> was a little too strong for the subject. Very much personal
> taste, I know.
>
> The inquiring Hoppy wants to know and really still admires the  
> photograph that Barney has made.
> Cheers
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: David
>
> I think making the eye a bit lighter was a good move. But throwing
> away the beautiful tones and contrasts of the initial shot, is a bit
> too much, IMO.
> Thanks for showing,
> Philippe
> Op 7-aug-07, om 03:57 heeft G Hopkinson het volgende geschreven:
>
>> Barnie, for my eye that is quite an improvement. Exactly what I had
>> in mind, anyway. A lovely print in there, no doubt.
>> Now just to persuade you to post the originals a little larger to
>> the gallery so that we can see as displayed or a larger version.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Hoppy
>> -----Original Message-----
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: David
>> Hoppy, Thanks for your comments. I think that you are spot on. Is this 
>> what
>> you had it mind?
>>
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Barney/David_2.jpg.html
>> I am glad that you liked the orchid picture. I swear that this is the
>> way that it came off the sensor with one tiny exception. It had a bug
>> on it which I spotted out.
>> Barney
>>
>> On Aug 5, 2007, at 11:14 PM, G Hopkinson wrote:
>>
>>> Barney, it's a grand photo as well. David's concentration is very
>>> well lit.
>>> I might be tempted to try a crop to remove the darker areas to the
>>> left? and maybe a less brown toning? Entirely personal taste, of
>>> course, just my 02 cents.
>>> Also got to look at that lovely orchid in your gallery again. Very
>>> very smooth.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Hoppy
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> Subject: [Leica] IMG: David
>>> The grand kids come to visit this afternoon. Here is my grand son
>>> David learning how to make ice cream. The answer to the important
>>> question is Oreo cookie with vanilla.
>>>
>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Barney/David.jpg.html

>>> Comments and Criticisms welcome.
>>> Barney