Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2007/08/04
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]HOLA HOPPY!!! First at all congrats for your great pictures on the Photo Contest! I've followed your discussion about the new Summarit lenses and I want tell you my opinion about two points. As you know I'm not a fan or a very concerned person for the last ASPH lens technology, I'm much more concerned for the dimmensions of a lens and I like the small lenses, IMO this will be a very good range of products at an affordable price for many users, IMO the charachteristics of the ASPH elements could be only necessary in extreme conditions, but technology is quite good for the general purpose of my pictures, I'll post a pictures I've shot with the Tri-Elmar 28-35-50 ASPH and with the Elmar Nickel uncoated 5cm/3,5 and I'm surprised to see small differences only, why we should expend so many money?, at least on my case and for my general pictures style. A maximum aperture of 2,5 is not bad for a general use, particularly I'm not interested on these lenses because I already have several versions of each one, but they are interesting for a new user. The second point I would comment and on this case I appreciate the difference is about the 90AA vs TE 90/2,8, on the 90AA I appreciate a clearly improvement, the images are more "clear and transparent" nice contrast, this is for me particularly useful, I should frequently need the maximum aperture of F2 on the 90AA. On your case, I'm sorry, but I have see your excellent results with your Elmarit 2,8/90mm, if you read the Erwin Putts comments it seems that at F4 the performances are identical, maybe is not necessary for your basically landscape style the f2...?, the same think I ask me about the 28mm, the new ASPH F2,8 is very attractive for me, it is small and it has a reasonnable price, but for my style I would regret more than one time the F2 of the Summicron 28, but IMO is too big... When we will be together on your next trip to Spain, we will have the opportunity to discuss and test the differences..., before to drink so many beers! Salud! Luis -----Mensaje original----- De: lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org [mailto:lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org] En nombre de G Hopkinson Enviado el: s?bado, 04 de agosto de 2007 8:29 Para: 'Leica Users Group' Asunto: RE: [Leica] Summarit press release Mark, I have that 28. You have prints from it. You should see output at 12x18. I consider it is a marvel of design and its performance, superb. I'll take contrasty, modern, high resolution, high saturation, well corrected over the early designs every time. Note that there is nothing wider than the 35 in that new Summarit range. All of the extant wides down to 21 now are asph designs. The asph elements in their several iterations are just part of the designs. Part of the Leica genius, in my view is to fit their performance into the compact packages that they have and to be able to produce superb performance wide open or nearly so. That goes exponentially so for fast lenses. My understanding of the 90AA performance is that it is amongst the very best of the Leica M designs, which is to say amongst the best in the world. I certainly plan to get one when I can. I think that the new Summarits may compete directly with the Zeiss designed Cosina made ZMs. Cheers Hoppy -----Original Message----- Subject: Re: [Leica] Summarit press release Yes its the invention of the aspheric lens element which has made Leica loose touch of its true competencies. (.... So when Leica came out with the 90 APO Asph it got out of doing what it was really good at. And the Leica 28mm Summicron-M f/2.0 Asph. I'd like to argue that all Leica has been doing in the past dozen years is making the best and by far the best glass in 35mm photography. And its use of aspherics is very crucial to its doing of this. And being number one in optics for its cameras was probably long the case the gap between Leica and its competition has proably widened by quite a bit in the past decade since I've gotten into it. And it was aspherics which did it for the big part.............. Mark William Rabiner Harlem, NY rabinergroup.com In Leica's behalf I'm not forgetting it's come out with the MP. Perhaps what Steven K. Lee is thinking that this new glass is what this 2.5 is for glass what the MP was for its bodies. A return to old fashioned quality; what Leica is all about. But it does not really relate perfectly. Glass design verses the hands on feel one gets from a well made body with mallets and brass with help from gnomes from the black forest and so on. And the condenser put back in the rangefinder. Which the MP brought back. Though no one noticed they were all looking at the buggy electronic aluminum M8. And the M7 is a body I'd not kick out of bed on a hail storm ridden with lightning night. I love an "A" setting don't tell anybody. f126th of a second and be there. * lured them to the opera, then killed them. _______________________________________________ Leica Users Group. See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information _______________________________________________ Leica Users Group. See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information