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Subject: [Leica] two kids
From: len-1 at comcast.net (Leonard Taupier)
Date: Mon Jun 18 07:21:56 2007
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Steve,

I agree with Peter as well. I see the same result in PS if the  
contrast is too high and then the exposure is increased in the shadow  
areas to get more detail. It doesn't matter if the file is from film  
or digital. I would expect the film is OK and the problem is in the  
scan settings. You might want to check the negatives with a loupe or  
microscope to be sure. These photos are too precious and should be  
displayed at their best. They should be hanging in a museum, they are  
that good.

Regards,
Len


On Jun 18, 2007, at 9:49 AM, Steve Barbour wrote:

>
> On Jun 18, 2007, at 12:23 AM, Peter Klein wrote:
>
>> Steve:  You have some fantastic pictures from Navaholand, but I  
>> think your lab is serving you ill here.
>
> I believe you are correct Peter...I am not entirely sure what they  
> did but...I am looking into it now...
>
>
> your input is very much appreciated...
>
> I wonder if you or others have more insight to help correct this  
> problem ?
>
> many thanks, Steve
>
>
>> It looks like they scanned at excessively high contrast, and with  
>> sharpening not only turned on, but way up.  The good news is that  
>> the images on film are probably OK.
>>
>> You might want to take your best negs (or are they slides?) to  
>> another lab and have them done better.  I always tell the lab to  
>> "preserve highlight detail, don't jack up the contrast, and keep  
>> sharpening low or off."  (the latter depending on who is running  
>> the machine).  In other words, scan like VueScan, not like for  
>> typical consumer prints.  Then I fix 'em up in my image editor.
>>
>> What kind of film did you use?
>>
>> --Peter
>>
>> At 08:40 PM 6/17/2007 -0700, Hoppy wrote:
>>> Steve, cute kids, more than nice light and colour.
>>> I really like the "lines" shot. Marvellous scenic.
>>>
>>> Sorry for a brief tech diversion;
>>> Something's going on here regarding film/scanning/sharpening/post- 
>>> processing.
>>> A grain effect across these just seems more prominent than I  
>>> would expect.
>>> I don't see it at all in close examination of your "Old Navajo"  
>>> in BW.
>>
>> Steve posted:
>>> ...on the Navajo reservation, Canyon de Chelly...
>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/barbour/chelly/two+kids.jpg.html
>>
>>
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In reply to: Message from pklein at 2alpha.net (Peter Klein) ([Leica] two kids)
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