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Subject: [Leica] Re: Vanishing darkroom supplies
From: chs2018 at med.cornell.edu (Chris Saganich)
Date: Thu May 3 07:56:51 2007
References: <200705030213.l432CVaA018951@server1.waverley.reid.org> <FC2FF393-4371-4F7E-BED6-6155CBCE2A46@optonline.net>

It is interesting to consider how much of this electronic information will 
be lost to time compared to traditional prints.  When my grandfather died 
we found hundreds of photos in some shoe boxes all from the 1940's and 
1950's, mostly family images taken with an old brownie box.  He wasn't a 
photographer nor did he take many pictures but apparently was fastidious 
about preserving what he had which consisted of a shoe box on a shelf in 
the hall closet.  A couple thoughts cross my mind, first how much of the 
total number of images actually taken is represented in the box?  What was 
lost?  How will the percentage lost in such an example from the past where 
the medium was print compare to future loss in the electronic format?  I 
agree that the number of images being created today by non-professional has 
increased dramatically and that the cross over of those images into a 
physical form is very low.  Quite different from the previous generations 
experience.  I wonder how ordinary people are going to preserve all these 
images?  Will my grand kids inherit a shoe box full of DVD's?  Will they 
work?  I would imagine that the preservation to loss ratio will not 
significantly change because in most cases there will be a desire to 
preserve these images.  The difficulty may be that the success also depends 
on a somewhat capricious technology which may prove to thwart individual 
determination via complexity and cost.  The print making process isn't dead 
it just isn't easy for average consumers to navigate the technology 
available to make prints.  As the savvy young folks get into the photo 
market I think print making will rise as long as the infrastructure 
exists.  It probably is a mistake for Kodak to think they are wrong in 
their initial assessment because of the generational lag in the use of 
technology.  Baby Boomers are trickling in but dying off,  gen X'ers 
haven't the market share to make a difference, but the up and coming 
generation will change all that and will likely have a deeper understand 
about the important differences between print media and electronic media.

At 09:24 AM 5/3/2007, you wrote:

>On May 2, 2007, at 10:13 PM, Jeffrey wrote:
>
>>>On Tuesday I drove to "Lakeside Camera", one of the larger
>>>photographic supply stores in the metropolitan area. They no longer
>>>stock darkroom supplies.
>>>
>>>The ship appears to be pulling away from the dock.....
>>>--
>
>
>I attended a family reunion in a suburb of Rochester last weekend. A
>niece asked me if I would like to look to look at pictures of her new
>baby. What could I do but agree? She pulled her digital camera out of
>her purse and treated me to a couple of dozen pictures displayed on
>the 2.5" LCD screen. No prints, just screen images. She saves the
>images directly to her computer and if she wants to see them
>enlarged, connects the laptop to her 42" plasma TV.
>
>Ironically, her husband is a Kodak executive. Later that evening, he
>told me that Kodak's research showed that more pictures are being
>taken than ever before but 95% of them are never actualized in hard
>copy form. He admitted that this was another one of Kodak's wrong
>guesses about the future of photography. Kodak hoped to compensate
>for reduced film sales by increased sales of photofinishing paper and
>supplies and do-it-yourself kiosks in drugstores and supermarkets.
>
>I felt really out of place with my Leica IIIf hanging around my neck.
>
>Larry Z
>
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Chris Saganich, Sr. Physicist
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New York Presbyterian Hospital
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