Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2007/04/27
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Maybe they should come with photoshop or LR. Actually their entry model these days is amazingly cheap. I think that some calibration device is an excellent investment for every photo editor. Preaching to the converted there, I guess. Cheers Hoppy -----Original Message----- From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org [mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Eric Korenman Sent: Saturday, 28 April 2007 08:03 To: Leica Users Group Subject: Re: [Leica] Re: JPEG look on LR vs the web Solution: Buy everyone in the world a Spyder. ! Eric On 4/27/07, G Hopkinson <hoppyman@bigpond.net.au> wrote: > > Eric, regarding your monitors, I meant that while they would very likely > only work within the sRGB colour space, they may not > necessarily be able to display all of it. However the important thing > there is that you have your systems colour managed and they > work. Since the browsers are not ICC aware as I thought was likely the > case, then the image is not being mapped (by the video card) > to the monitor profile when you are using the browser. It is out of the > colour managed control. The images should still be the right > temperature and brightness because you've physically adjusted the > monitors' controls in the calibration process, but the colour > reproduction may not be the same? On your clients' computers the same > image would most likely be too bright and too cool at a > default setting but you have no control there, of course. > > My thoughts anyway. > > Cheers > Hoppy > > -----Original Message----- > From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org [mailto: > lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of > Eric Korenman > Sent: Saturday, 28 April 2007 02:43 > To: Leica Users Group > Subject: Re: [Leica] Re: JPEG look on LR vs the web > > As I understand, my monitors (planar high-end LCDs) are calibrated into > sRGB > space (as I have it set). > Color compliant programs look great on it. Everything matches. Prints from > pro-lab also come looking great. > > I am previewing sRGB Jpegs on non ICC aware browsers on my own machine. > That is when the images go flewy and look ruddy skinned. > > I check out my web posted images at other computers from time to time and > they also look ruddy. > > My guess is it is a combination of poor representation of images by > non-ICC > browsers and non-calibrated monitors. > But I can't understand why the images would look bad on my system which > >should< be in sRGB space. > > Thats why I like B&W! > > Eric > > > On 4/27/07, G Hopkinson <hoppyman@bigpond.net.au> wrote: > > > > Eric, I'm confused there. With your monitor calibrated you have its own > > profile installed. That might well fit into the sRGB but not > > necessarily show all of it. > > However I suspect that the weak link may be using a web browser to > display > > the images. I don't know if that will match what is > > happening in a colour management compliant prog. I may well be wrong > > there, I'm not expert on what the web browser does. I bet they > > don't look the same as in photoshop. Are you previewing in the same > > browser on your machine? > > Of course you have no control at all in what your client's computers > > (monitors) do to your images. Most would very likely not be > > colour managed. I just recently looked at the LUG contest gallery on two > > different laptops. The pictures looked horrible vs on a > > calibrated setup. > > > > Cheers > > Hoppy > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org [mailto: > > lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of > > Eric Korenman > > Sent: Friday, 27 April 2007 20:38 > > To: LUG > > Subject: [Leica] Re: JPEG look on LR vs the web > > > > My system is calibrated by Spyder 2 and the deafult window color space > is > > sRGB IEC61966-2.1 > > > > Eric > > > > > > On 4/27/07, Eric Korenman <faneuil@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > I know this may be more of an adobe forum question. but: > > > > > > My monitors are calibrated. Everything looks super in LR, PS and > ACDSee. > > > Skin tones are warm and lovely. > > > > > > Exported Jpeg images also look great in any of these three programs. > > > However, the images look quite ruddy when opened in Internet explorer > or > > > any or other lesser image viewer. > > > I am concerned that clients are seeing very color shifted ruddy skin > > tones > > > when I email them or post proofs. > > > I am sending them sRGB Jpegs. > > > > > > Where is the problem? > > > > > > Eric > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > _______________________________________________ Leica Users Group. 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