Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2007/04/19
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I blame the general anesthesia from my cataract surgery it made me cranky yesterday. At 04:55 PM 4/18/2007, you wrote: >Chris, I can't see any anger in the thread, just a discussion of personal >preference. > >Steve > > >On 18/4/07 21:49, "Chris Saganich" <chs2018@med.cornell.edu> wrote: > > > I feel guilty when cropping an image for heavens sake, but not moving > > things around before taking a shot, if I can. What does it matter either > > way? Why should subtle changes in an image provoke such anger? It > > doesn't > > change the reality of whatever the situation is, won't prevent millions > > from starvation or murder, not likely to cause millions to be murdered, > > or > > starved. May change our perception about who we think we are. And what's > > more important then that these days? Perhaps we have become sensitive to > > having our perceptions manipulated. We should all go back and read > > Edward > > Bernaise and Walter Lippman's instructional works on propaganda in a > > democracy. > > > > At 02:48 PM 4/18/2007, you wrote: > >> But would you move something in the foreground? Say a cup on a table > >> that > >> was cluttering the image. I know I've moved rubbish bins in the past > to get > >> a shot :-), but then I'd never claim to be a documentary shooter, just a > >> part time snapper. > >> > >> Steve > >> > >> > >> On 18/4/07 01:39, "Tina Manley" <images@comporium.net> wrote: > >> > >> > >>> > >>> What do you think? Does previsualization mean that the photograph > >>> was manipulated subconsciously? I don't think so. I might imagine a > >>> photo that I would like to take of a family in Central America, but > >>> that would only mean that I would only look for situations to take > >>> that photo. I would never move people into position or change > >>> circumstances to make the photo happen when it wouldn't have without > >>> my being there. Moving people into position or suggesting situations > >>> or adding lights or manipulating photographs in the darkroom goes way > >>> beyond previsualization, to me, and would not be acceptable for > >>> documentary or news photographs. I think many so-called documentary > >>> photographs today should be reclassified as art photographs if the > >>> situations were manipulated or directed by the photographer. That is > >>> not documentary or news photography. > >> > > > >_______________________________________________ >Leica Users Group. >See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information Chris Saganich, Sr. Physicist Weill Medical College of Cornell University New York Presbyterian Hospital chs2018@med.cornell.edu Ph. 212.746.6964 Fax. 212.746.4800 Office A-0049