[Leica] re: Exposure and Development

[don.dory at gmail.com (Don Dory)]

Robert,
What you don't see is that Ted is the master of his craft.  Meaning, take a
meter reading from what?  I have watched Ted shoot casually in Cape Cod and
he is truly a master of choosing what to meter from even with an M7.  I am
not even sure that he is conscious of what he is doing.  Truly, light, eyes,
action, shoot.

Don
don.dory@gmail.com

On 3/2/07, Robert Meier <robertmeier@usjet.net> wrote:
>
>
> Ted,
>
> So what you are saying is that you shot at the film maker's recommended
> exposure index (except when pushing the film), and developed it at the
> developer maker's recommended time and temperature, for your whole career,
> and never saw any need to vary either one?   And you always used an
> average
> exposure reading without taking specific shadow or highlight readings?
>
> That is certainly keeping it simple.
>
> Robert
>
>
> > Many have offered great details and how one should "do it" on this
> > subject.
> > Subject: [Leica] re: Exposure and Development
> >
> > However. :-)
> > As many of you know I'm no more techie with film, "expose for shadows
> soup
> > for whatever" than I am with digital... my gosh far worse with digital.
> > Shooting slide film? In that case I expose for the highlight and
> > everything else ended up wherever it ended up. Always seemed to work.
> :-)
> >
> > B&W film was very nearly always rated at the manufacturers ASA and
> souped
> > for their specs. Unless I pushed a stop or two, but then the times were
> > those recommended by the maker of the film. Usually.
> >
> > And it always seemed to work OK. The quality of the negatives never
> > deterred us from making lots of 35mm 16X20 exhibition prints out of our
> > darkroom trays over the years. Certainly doing as I always
> have..........
> > "KISS!"
> >
> > If the film how to soup instruction was 6 mins. @ 70 degrees, agitation
> > every 30 secs, that was fine and that's what was done. Close anyway. ;-)
> > But they always seemed to look OK and print just fine.
> >
> > George Lottermoser said:
> >
> >
> >> The point I wished to make in starting this thread:
> >> Fine photographic technique requires that the photographer
> 'know'  where
> >> s/he wants shadows and highlights fall on the negative,  transparency
> >> and/or chip. This requires knowledge of how to control  the shadows and
> >> highlights through the use of exposure and  development of the
> material,
> >> whether chemical or digital.<<<<
> >
> > Maybe I do this unconsciously just from years of exposing and souping my
> > film. But I can honestly say I've never consciously related to exposing
> > for shadows and souping for highlights or vice versa or whichever it's
> > supposed to be. Maybe the tooth fairy has always looked after me in the
> > darkroom. Or maybe I just hate complications and live life with a KISS
> > attitude. If it works? "Cool" as the young folks say today! :-) If I
> > screw-up? Well the standard expression fits......... "Oh S.....t!"
> >
> > My gut feelings about this expose develop routine comes down to major
> > simple this way............. it really doesn't matter how the heck other
> > soul's do their film! It's far more important ..... "HOW YOU DO YOURS! "
> > You know why?
> >
> > Each person turns the can upside down differently, they agitate with
> > various actions, the temperature isn't on the mark in everyone's tank,
> nor
> > are the times absolutely to the second identical! It's really, to each
> his
> > own and never mind doing as others do, but use their technique as a
> > guideline. Gradually you'll find it works for you or it doesn't!
> > Eventually you'll achieve the results "YOU" like!  But we each and
> > everyone, never soup nor expose absolutely identical!
> >
> > KISS folks that's what it's all about for each shooter. Oh and souper!
> ;-)
> >
> > ted
> >
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