Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2007/01/27

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Subject: [Leica] First M8 experience
From: jplaurel at spectare.com (Jim Laurel)
Date: Sat Jan 27 22:42:01 2007
References: <C1E18597.434B2%mark@rabinergroup.com>

Hi Mark,
The foreground plants/trees look just like the EOS1Ds image.  That  
one is pretty accurate.  Trouble is that if I start desaturating  
colors, the rest of the image gets thrown off.  It's not so much a  
color cast that you can fix by desaturating across the entire image.   
It's that certain things in the image, in this case the foreground  
plants, seem to have taken on a wacky color.  And what is the deal  
with all the color fringing up around the roof and fascia of the  
building?

I called Tamarkin today and they were very helpful.  They advised  
that the IR/UV filter would take care of all these problems.  I can  
believe that could be the case with the plants in the foreground.   
Apparently, they're reflecting IR and turning magenta, but I'm  
skeptical about the color fringing in high contrast areas.  I  
specifically asked them if the IR filter would solve the fringing  
issue as well and they assured me it would.  However, I'm having a  
hard time believing that.  Now, I am trying to decide whether I  
should try the filters at all or just send it back as Ted says.  I'll  
have to ask the good folks at Tamarkin, but I think once I get the  
filters, I won't be able to return the camera.  What that means is  
that there's really no way to know if I can be satisfied with the  
darn thing.

As of now, I'm ready to throw it out the window!

Cheers - Jim


On Jan 27, 2007, at 7:41 PM, Mark Rabiner wrote:

> On 1/27/07 9:38 PM, "Jim Laurel" <jplaurel@spectare.com> typed:
>
>> So here's a dumb test shot, taken this morning right outside my front
>> door.
>>
>> Here's the shot from the Canon EOS1DS.  Natural color, as I have come
>> to expect from this camera.  No problems here.
>> http://www.twango.com/media/jim.public/jim.12553?sort=5
>>
>> Here's the shot from the leica.  Wow!  Disneyland!  Notice how many
>> of the plants in the foreground have gone magenta.  And if you click
>> through to the larger image, notice all the color fringing in the
>> high contrast areas:
>> http://www.twango.com/media/jim.public/jim.12552?sort=5
>>
>> Some people are emailing me and saying that they have not had any
>> trouble like this in several weeks of using the camera, even with no
>> IR filters.  Have I got a bad one?  Because it is completely unusable
>> as it is.
>>
>> --Jim
>>
>>
> I  would go into Photoshop and desaturate the magenta a bunch.
> Although it looks red not magenta to me.
> desaturate the red.
> Or the magenta and yellow separately.
> I do that with most my pictures anyway and I shoot with a Nikon D200.
> Desaturate the gamut of colors individually so they are less gaudy.
> What did the tree really look like?
>
> Mark Rabiner
> New York, NY
> 40?47'59.79"N
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>
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