Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2007/01/27
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Hi Jim, I can't click anything to make the image bigger. At that small size I can't see the magenta plants or the fringing. What I did though was copy the picture and looked at it in PS2 to see what I could. I bumped the image size up a little to get a better look. It appears the WB is warmer on the leica shot. I clicked auto color and it then looked pretty close to the Canon image. That's as far as I can take it. The auto WB isn't the greatest and I've seen consecutive shots of the same thing change WB. Pretty strange and not what I get from my Nikon or Canon DSLR. I'm generally happy with the camera but hope firmware improvements are forthcoming. If you want to send me a test file directly via e-mail I'll be happy to look at it. I'm certainly not an expert at this, just trying to help out. My e-mail is len-1@comcast.net Len On Jan 27, 2007, at 9:38 PM, Jim Laurel wrote: > So here's a dumb test shot, taken this morning right outside my > front door. > > Here's the shot from the Canon EOS1DS. Natural color, as I have > come to expect from this camera. No problems here. > http://www.twango.com/media/jim.public/jim.12553?sort=5 > > Here's the shot from the leica. Wow! Disneyland! Notice how many > of the plants in the foreground have gone magenta. And if you > click through to the larger image, notice all the color fringing in > the high contrast areas: > http://www.twango.com/media/jim.public/jim.12552?sort=5 > > Some people are emailing me and saying that they have not had any > trouble like this in several weeks of using the camera, even with > no IR filters. Have I got a bad one? Because it is completely > unusable as it is. > > --Jim > > > > On Jan 27, 2007, at 11:43 AM, Leonard Taupier wrote: > >> Jim, >> >> You need the IR filter, big time. Every condition you mention is >> the absolute worst case for IR interference. I don't believe lens >> coding corrects anything and will continue to believe so until >> someone can prove different. I was lucky. I already had a hot >> mirror IR filter and a couple step up rings before I bought my M8. >> The without filter results are as you describe. I would suggest >> getting one filter from somewhere and redo the test before you >> give up the ship. Don't wait for Leica to send you one but buy one >> filter (if you can find your size in stock) and run the same test. >> If after you do that and you're still not happy then the M8 isn't >> for you. (BTW, none of my posted M8 pictures used a filter). >> >> Good luck with whatever you decide. >> Len >> >> On Jan 27, 2007, at 1:43 PM, Jim Laurel wrote: >> >>> Well, despite my better judgement and the sage advice of some >>> here, B.D. not least, I decided to purchase an M8. >>> >>> My experience so far has not been encouraging. I seem to be >>> experiencing every M8 foible in the book in tests with my >>> Summicron 28 ASPH mounted. Shooting last night under tungsten >>> light, people with navy blue shirts came out MAGENTA. Color >>> balance is unpredictable, rendering the jpg mode essentially >>> useless. Test shots outdoors in high contrast scenes exhibit the >>> most unbelievable chromatic fringing. >>> >>> Perhaps I should reserve my opinion until I get my lenses coded >>> and the IR filters in place (I don't have either yet), but side >>> by side comparisons with my Canon 1Ds are no comparison. The M8 >>> photos are indeed show better resolution, but who cares when high >>> contrast areas have such overwhelming purple fringing? The 1Ds >>> photos aren't as crisp, but you can sharpen them up and at least >>> the colors look natural and your photo doesn't look like someone >>> drew all over it with a red marker. >>> >>> For those of you who are using the IR filters and have your >>> lenses coded, please tell me that this camera is actually usable >>> with those things in place. Otherwise, it looks like eBay time... >>> >>> Cheers - Jim Laurel >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information