[Leica] photographing the homeless

[kididdoc at cox.net (Steve Barbour)]

Ted..

this says it all, says it well... and brought a tear or two to my  
eyes, in your saying it...


Steve


On Jan 20, 2007, at 8:38 AM, Ted Grant wrote:

>>>> larry.k@rcn.com wrote:
>>   Bravo Adam! I also found myself wondering why anyone should  
>> listen to this guy and his rules! Who made this guy the  
>> philosopher king of photography?<<
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> Subject: Re: [Leica] photographing the homeless
>
> LUG Family member Larry, sir. (and others)
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> I realize yer just a young lad when it comes to the "LUG Family  
> Life Experience." Therefore not understanding of the wordsmithing  
> we run into at times triggering a rebuttal not knowing the poster  
> personally and their ability to " tongue in cheek" on many subjects.
>
> Not only you, but a few others have no idea how talented Kyle is  
> when it comes to motivating a discussion of many types and topics.  
> As well as moving the masses of "the family to take pictures and  
> post them."
>
> He requires no defence as a photographer, doer, nor writer. But  
> when he posts as he did in this case, he's making a point of  
> treating other human beings as one might like to be treated if the  
> role were reversed. We the photographer were living on the street  
> while some "over zealous simpleton" with a camera takes our picture  
> while we sleep or under the influence of whatever.
>
> If one should consider Kyle's writings as you've said, " Who made  
> this guy the philosopher king of photography?<<
>
> Well actually you did by asking the question!
>
> None of us took him serious in the writing because we know his  
> writings and ability to raise an interesting subject on treating  
> others when it comes to taking pictures of, in particular, "down  
> and outers" for whatever reason.
>
> If you are not a professional assigned to photograph the lives of  
> people and events on this planet, then it's a major factor in how  
> Kyle, others on list and myself learn how to treat others due to  
> our daily contact to visually communicate with all levels of  
> humanities. Because that's our job!
>
> And the visual topics are endless! And yes I've puked my guts out  
> at some of the scenes! Cried at others!
>
> But the most important thing most of us learn? How we respect  
> others who are before our lens! Certainly as we attempt to show  
> their lives, good, bad, ugly or beyond your wildest imagination. In  
> many cases it's a hell of life to be a photojournalist shooting  
> situations we find ourselves in, sometimes!
>
> How about some that still give nightmares from the stupidity of man  
> and his abilities to kill and maim his fellow man? Starve children  
> and women all in the name of bettering their lives. But the bottom  
> line of the respect thing is........... no matter how gruesome or  
> terrifying the subject situation maybe.............................  
> we can go home, or to our warm hotel, be well fed when the day or  
> night is done.
>
> And because of the ability to walk away from it, is one of the main  
> reasons we give the subject respect! It's the old "Keep it simple,  
> "Treat others as you'd like to be treated!"
>
> Give respect when we photograph and we receive respect in return.  
> Be a "take advantage of subject" shooter and you'll surely get  
> yours some day the likes you never want to happen!
>
> Not sure this means anything on the screen as it might if we were  
> having a beer in round table discussion with members of the Family.
>
> ted.
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