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Subject: [Leica] There's something about German design ...
From: raimo.m.korhonen at uusikaupunki.fi (Raimo K)
Date: Tue Jan 16 09:04:24 2007
References: <200701150418.l0F4IlM8086419@server1.waverley.reid.org><315738.85149.qm@web90412.mail.mud.yahoo.com><200701150654.l0F6svXV004648@server1.waverley.reid.org><cee6b34c9fba.45ab44a8@shaw.ca><200701152025.l0FKPdd6026701@server1.waverley.reid.org><cda1b5bff5cb.45abb95c@shaw.ca> <cc52991196f2.45abbe12@shaw.ca> <200701160242.l0G2gYhJ038216@server1.waverley.reid.org>

According to Wkikipedia: "The Me 262's top ace was probably Hauptmann Franz 
Schall with 17 kills which included six four-engine bombers and 10 P-51 
fighters, although night fighter ace Oberleutnant Kurt Welter claimed 25 
Mosquitos and two four-engined bombers shot down by night and two further 
Mosquitos by day flying the Me 262." I doubt that the German aces had access 
to the serial numbers of the aircraft they shot down and the Americans are 
naturally reluctant to reveal them now. Rocket armed Me-262s were quite 
effective against bombers.
And: "Slightly over 1400 Me 262s of all its versions were produced. Due to 
fuel shortages, pilot shortages, and the lack of many airfields that could 
support the Me 262 (concrete runways were recommended as the jet engines 
would melt tar runways), as few as 200 Me 262s made it to combat units."
All the best!
Raimo K
Personal photography homepage at:
http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marc James Small" <marcsmall@comcast.net>
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>; <lug@leica-users.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 4:30 AM
Subject: Re: [Leica] There's something about German design ...


> At 07:46 PM 1/15/2007, GREG LORENZO wrote:
> >> German WWII Ace Heinrich B&#65533;r spent the last two months of the 
> >> war
> >> flying a ME-262
> >> Jet (your so-called dud). His last four shootdowns were all
> >> fighters (3 Lightnings and 1 Mosquito). BTW, German fighters were
> >> ordered to ignore allied fighters and go after the bombers.
> >
> >Correction, make that 3 Thunderbolts (not Lightnings).
>
>
> Allegations, kind sir, remain allegations.  Please show the body s/n of 
> the downed P-47's and show where the USAAF/USAF accepted these kills.  (I 
> can put you in touch, if you wish, with one of the USAF Historical Center 
> historians if you would like and you can ask him about this:  I promise 
> not to try to bias him and will simply provide you his e-mail.  All I ask 
> is that I remain in the e-mail loop to learn what I may learn.)
>
> Marc
>
>
> msmall@aya.yale.edu
> Cha robh b?s fir gun ghr?s fir!
>
>
>
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