Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2007/01/15
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]The biggest shortage that the Germans faced was lack of fuel - IIRC for the Battle of the Bulge the German tanks and aircraft had fuel for 5 days. Later aircraft and tanks were abandoned in perfect working order because there was no fuel. All the best! Raimo K Personal photography homepage at: http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho ----- Original Message ----- From: "GREG LORENZO" <gregj.lorenzo@shaw.ca> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org> Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 6:08 PM Subject: Re: [Leica] There's something about German design ... > Marc James Small writes in part: > >> >> The M4 Sherman has received a lot of hostility >> from the Disdain and Hysteria Channels in recent >> years but this is undeserved. It was a solid >> vehicle capable of solid work. Sure, it had >> limitations but one part of doctrine is to teach >> soldiers how to make the best of their gear and, >> in the end, the Sherman turned into a real >> workhorse which effectively crushed German armor by early 1945. > > This is not corrrect, most German armor on the Western Front was put out > of action by air power (i.e. rocket firing Typhoons, etc.) and to a lesser > degree by anti-tank guns. A significant amount of German equipment, > including tanks was abandoned in perfect working condition when the > Germans retreated east after the battle of Falaise. Germany had no > effective airforce left to provide battlefield cover at this point in the > war and could only move effectively at night. > >> To put it a different way, if the Panther and the >> Tiger were so great, and the Sherman so lousy, >> how then did we win the War? If the >> Messerschmidt and the Focke-Wulf were so >> superior, and the P-47 and P-51 so bad, why did >> the Germans have no air cover left by the time of >> OVERLORD? The true answer, of course, is that >> our gear worked better, all in all, than did >> theirs, and our doctrine was superior, so that we >> were able to grind them into little bitty pieces by early 1945. >> > > This is also incorrect (except for the fact that Germany had no air force > to speak of at this point). German prop fighter aircraft were just as good > as allied aircraft. Their jet aircraft clearly superior. They lacked > trained pilots after 1942. > > World War II was won primarily on the Eastern Front by the **Soviet > Union**. This is summed up nicely by the author Charles B. MacDonald in > his book "World War II: The War Against Germany and Italy". > > MacDonald wrote the following paragraph: > > * "The German armed forces and the nation were prostrate, beaten to a > degree never before seen in modern times. Hardly any organized units of > the German Army remained except in Norway, Czechoslovakia, and the > Balkans, and these would soon capitulate. What remained of the air arm was > too demoralized even for a final suicidal effort, and the residue of the > German Navy lay helpless in captured northern ports. Through five years of > war, the German armed forces had lost over 3 million men killed, 263,000 > of them in the west, since D-day. The United States lost 135,576 dead in > Western Europe, while Britain, Canada, France, and other Allies incurred > after D-day approximately 60,000 military deaths." > > * Source: Army Historical Series, Office of The Chief of Military History, > US Army. > > On land, the Western Allies (primarily the USA) in WWII clearly won the > Pacific War against Japan. North Africa, Italy and Western Europe were > very much a side show in the fight against Germany. Strategic bombing of > German plants and cities and German occupied Europe and naval actions > excepted. > > > Greg J. Lorenzo > Calgary, Alberta > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information