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Subject: [Leica] Has this ever happened to one of you?
From: len-1 at comcast.net (Leonard Taupier)
Date: Sun Dec 3 19:19:05 2006
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I think you could easily go two months before a new mix. I wonder if  
my smaller jars are helping it last longer. I personally like the  
results I get from XTOL so well I would not hesitate to mix new every  
two months if thats what it takes. Good luck with whatever you end up  
with.

Len


On Dec 3, 2006, at 9:45 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote:

> It's a developer that I would like to like. The local professional  
> darkroom
> uses it, and they have given me my absolute best TRI-X negatives. I  
> have
> been storing it in 500ml amber bottles (filled to the top). But  
> some of the
> negatives I've gotten from it after 6 months have been really bad.  
> That's
> why I would rather not keep it long. It is cheap enough that I  
> could afford
> to mix new each month or two, but I hate pouring unused developer  
> down the
> drain.
>
> Jeffery Smith
> New Orleans, LA
> http://www.400tx.com
> http://400tx.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org
> [mailto:lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of  
> Leonard
> Taupier
> Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 7:47 PM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Has this ever happened to one of you?
>
>
> Hello, Jeffery,
>
> I've never had XTOL go bad on me. Maybe I'm just lucky but what I do
> is mix up the full 5 liters and then fully fill 5, 1 quart Bell
> canning jars, right to the top (a little left over for a 6th
> bottle).  I then cover each jar with the blue plastic Hellmans (Best)
> 30 oz mayonnaise jar tops (remove cardboard inner liner) . I use the
> partial 6th bottle first. It is a perfect,  tight fit to the Ball
> jars. As long as the XTOL is perfectly clear, it is good. Once it
> gets a slight yellowish tint I throw it out. I have never had a full
> bottle turn, only when it gets down to the last 3 or 4 ozs.  I use
> XTOL 1:1 and generally use the 5 liters within 2 months or so (about
> 28 rolls of 135). There are no local shops that carry XTOL so I buy
> it from B&H.  I also find that XTOL works pretty well with just about
> any film.
>
> I hope this info is helpful to anyone that wants to try XTOL.
>
> Len
>
>
>
>
> On Dec 3, 2006, at 8:12 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote:
>
>> What I like about XTOL is that it is very easy to mix. What I hate
>> about it
>> is that it looks perfectly good when it has died in the bottle. The
>> cure for
>> that problem would be to make smaller amounts every month, but Kodak
>> discontinued the small size packaging. Which brings me to the
>> Neopan 400
>> question...what is the best developer to use for Neopan 400? I
>> don't like to
>> use the Ilford liquid developers as they don't seem very reliable
>> (like
>> XTOL, I cannot determine if they have died in the bottle on the way
>> over the
>> pond).
>>
>> Jeffery Smith
>> New Orleans, LA
>> http://www.400tx.com
>> http://400tx.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org
>> [mailto:lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
>> Marc
>> James Small
>> Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 5:45 PM
>> To: Leica Users Group
>> Subject: RE: [Leica] Has this ever happened to one of you?
>>
>>
>> At 06:17 PM 12/3/2006, Jeffery Smith wrote:
>>> The offending liquid was a sample of Arista Premium Developer from
>>> Freestyle. I had no D76 on hand and tried it on some Neopan 400. I
>>> guess
>>> this is why nobody I know uses Arista Premium Developer. :-0
>>
>> Jeffery
>>
>> I always keep the raw chemicals for D-76 on
>> hand.  This stuff lasts forever and is quite
>> inexpensive so, whenever I am caught without any
>> developer on hand, I can fall back on home-made
>> D-76.  (Kodak blew a marketing opportunity this
>> year, as 2006 marks the 80th anniversary of
>> D-76.  But then AGFA failed to do much with
>> Rodinal when it turned 100 15 years ago.  And
>> almost no one has noted that 2006 is the 250th
>> birthday of Voigtl?nder, albeit the company
>> really ceased as an independent entity when it
>> was merged with Zeiss Ikon in 1966 (the 210th
>> birthyear!), then passed on to Rollei in 2003,
>> gutted by them, with the brand names but nothing
>> else later passing to the company which licenses these to Cosina.)
>>
>> I like XTOL but find it almost impossible to find
>> locally.  There is a home-brew recipe for that
>> but I've never tried it -- you start out with
>> orange juice and then you ... <he
>> grins>.  Someday, I'll try out the home-brew
>> recipe to see what happens.  Rodinal also lasts a
>> LONG time so long as it is in glass bottles and
>> not in plastic:  I have some Rodinal which must
>> be 40 years old or older but which keeps on working.
>>
>> Marc
>>
>>
>> msmall@aya.yale.edu
>> Cha robh b?s fir gun ghr?s fir!
>>
>>
>>
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