Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/12/02
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I like digital for color as I don't think color and grain are a good marriage. But I'm not too crazy about digital converted to grayscale. I can live with color print film converted to grayscale, but digital is just too smooth. Jeffery Smith New Orleans, LA http://www.400tx.com http://400tx.blogspot.com/ -----Original Message----- From: lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org [mailto:lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of G Hopkinson Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 7:59 PM To: 'Leica Users Group' Subject: RE: [Leica] Re: Alien Skin Exposure Ted and Montie, perhaps I didn't express myself well. The digital/film comparison is well worn. Mostly we understand that they are different mediums. My comment was that I am seeing some ground swell of preference for the film "look" for some purposes. I wonder if some of that comes from the enthusiast photographers being conditioned for years to expect that film "look" so that it appears normal. Cheers Hoppy -----Original Message----- From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org [mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Montie Sent: Sunday, 3 December 2006 10:19 To: Leica Users Group Subject: [Leica] Re: Alien Skin Exposure Well put Ted! Instead of one better than the other, it's what you're comfortable with. I'm strictly a film shooter because that's what I'm comfortable with and that's what I like. Bear in mind, I retired from pro shooting in "92" at age 42 (military) so I have no real need or desire, at present, to switch. If I were a working pro today (regardless of where) I would switch or sink...period. Digital capture is a fact of life and will only improve. But now, as a lazy Fine Artist ;-) with loads of time, my MP and a few chunks of Leitz Glass (along with an occasional Nikkormat FTN) is all I want or need. OK, maybe I'll pick up a used Rapid M eventually ;-) My hat goes off to people on this list who are comfortable with and have mastered both!! Montie ----------- >>Hoppy asked: >>> But I am the only one here struck by the incongruence of working to >>> make digital images look just like film?<<< >>Ted wrote: Hoppy mon ami, A most interesting question indeed! I don't understand why one would add extra time doing this particularly when the digital reproductions look so magnificent! I shot a moment the other day with the M8, quite a simple photo @ ASA 160 of a couple of young women with a digital doing one of those self portrait things pointing the camera at themselves. And I wouldn't trade my M8 exposure, the look, nor printed re-production for anything using the most expensive and fine grained film in the world! Digital is digital and if one is into it, then get a completely digital life and get on with it! Is one not some kind of masochist by making their images look like film? I can see doing the film look if digital gave ugly results, but for my money digital produces beautiful prints the likes one can't do in the dark room no matter how many years they've had their hands in the soup, stop bath and fixer! On top of that they are two different things.... film is film and produces one thing, film images and prints. Digital produces it's type of image and print so why bother to make changes! Particularly when both are so beautiful when well done. Do they look the same? Nope, but does a Ford look like a Mercedes? But they both have 4 wheels, go some place and are beautiful in the eye of the beholder! Just leave all this "old life of film" behind where it belongs. Sure one can miss the film, the darkroom, the smells, cutting, sleeving, editing contacts and swishing your hands and paper in the chemicals. But if you've gone digital get a life and accept it! If one changes to digital, then accept it whole heartedly and get on with life! Leave the past behind and enjoy the memories but there's no need to create more time in front of a computer screen when you could have far more fun and enjoyment out taking pictures! The really bottom line is.... this software film looking effect? Does it make it a better photograph than what you experienced in your motivational heart when you went "CLICK?" Not bloody likely! ted _______________________________________________ Leica Users Group. See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information _______________________________________________ Leica Users Group. See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information