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Subject: [Leica] M8 in Palo Alto
From: nathan at nathanfoto.com (Nathan Wajsman)
Date: Sat Nov 11 21:55:50 2006
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Hi Tom,

I occasionally find myself photographing at f1.4 and ISO 1600, and I am 
allergic to flash, so high-speed performance is definitely important for 
me. If you look at my Seville pictures (at night), there are many that 
could have benefitted from a smaller aperture for more depth of field or 
a faster shutter speed to better freeze movement (I was shooting mostly 
with a CL with 40mm Summicron and Fuji Neopan 1600 film, rated at 1600). 
Technology moves on, and one of the greatest thing about my Canon DSLR 
is its high-ISO performance, which far surpasses any 35mm film of 
similar speeds. It is therefore reasonable to evaluate the high-ISO 
performance of the M8, especially given the nature of M photography, and 
given the price of the M8, which is comparable to that of a high-end 
DSLR.  I am prepared to accept in a pocket P&S that ISO beyond 400 is 
basically unusable without Noise Ninja or the like, but not in my 
primary camera (which the M8 would become if I bought one).

Nathan


Tom Schofield wrote:
> One thing I don't get about these discussions re high ISO performance 
> -- Why do you need more than 400 or 800 ISO with a Summilux or 
> Noctilux?  I have shot newlyweds leaving their reception under street 
> lights at night with 400 ISO with a Noctilux., and everybody seems to 
> be saying the 640 setting is great.
>
> Tom Schofield
>
>
> On Nov 11, 2006, at 3:11 PM, Richard wrote:
>
>> Yup, M8 is definitely an M8. The size, weight, shape, and of course 
>> the viewfinder say, :Leica M: The shutter sound is different, yet... 
>> very similar to low speed on the film Ms. Imagine the sound of the 
>> 1/15 on a film M sped up. Here's my obligatory "test" picture:
>> http://www.dragonsgate.net/pub/richard/PICS/L1000005.jpg
>>
>> 75/1.4 'lux at 1.4
>>
>> The ISO 1250 shots look worse than the RD-1 at 1600, IMHO, but that's 
>> a very unscientific observation. Apparently there are now 28 people 
>> on the K&S waiting list :-) and the Norcal rep. says he has 250 
>> camera in the first batch and of course they are all accounted for.
>>
>> Too bad there are 5003 reasons not to buy it: the first 5000 are the 
>> killer reasons, the last 3 are nits:
>> - 5001: lack of shutter arm (no biggie)
>> - 5002: various white balance, banding issues (almost certainly 
>> software fixable)
>> - 5003: magenta black (almost certainly don't happen all that often 
>> "in real life" and most likely will be fixed one way or the other)
>>
>> Now to address the first 5000 reasons...
>>
>> At 12:31 AM 11/11/2006, pmcc wrote:
>>
>>> Here's the pdf:
>>>
>>> http://www.kspphoto.com/media/event_data/leica/Leica_card.pdf
>>>
>>> Peter.
>>> SF, CA
>>
>
>
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