[Leica] FOR THE AMERICAN COUSINS. :-)

[hoppyman at bigpond.net.au (G Hopkinson)]

Philippe, I have a feeling that Ted may be spluttering in his coffee if you 
bring up colour space issues! However, wouldn't it be
logical that the browsers will only use the sRGB colour space, hence you may 
not see differences. In PS you'll have the benefit of
the AdobeRGB as set as your default.
Sometimes the sRGB version may look quite similar, but I think it depends on 
how much of the original is out of gamut when the
colour space is changed. I see radical shifts in saturated blues and greens, 
for example when applying the lesser (sRGB) colour
space
Cheers
Hoppy

-----Original Message-----
From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org 
[mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
Philippe Orlent
Sent: Thursday, 2 November 2006 06:46
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] FOR THE AMERICAN COUSINS. :-)

OK Ted,
Thanks for that. Really. I didn't expect your reply since I was a bit  
afraid you'd take it badly, and you would be right in a way: who am I  
to suggest something on the work of one of the true masters on this  
list?

First things first: I think that you saved your images in Adobe RGB  
and put them on the web like that. It at least seemed so when I saved  
your jpegs on my desktop and opened them in my PS CS2, where I have  
Adobe RGB as default setting, and I didn't get a warning of changing  
of color space (which I also set as default).
This can give strange surprises, since the web 'standard' is sRGB.
The result was that opening them in PS gave different color and  
contrast representation on my screen: suddenly both images appeared  
as I suggested in my reply to your initial mail.
This is a problem on the web: what the sender sees on his screen and  
esteems to be as he wants it, does not necesseraly appears like that  
on a viewer's (even calibrated) screen.
So the best bet is to choose sRGB as color space for your web  
presentations, I think.

Secondly, I had a little go on both versions of your shot. Just some  
dodging and burning, and a slight color correction on the colored  
version.
I can only hope that you'll like them:

BW: http://tinyurl.com/yy3wya
Color: http://tinyurl.com/y5aznn

Almost no difference when looked at via your browser, I think, but  
clear differences when both opened in PS.
Which is strange...
Can anybody elaborate on that? Is there any information loss or color  
shift when seen via a web browser (in my case Safari)?

Thanks for responding,
Philippe


Op 1-nov-06, om 19:21 heeft Ted Grant het volgende geschreven:

> Philippe Orlent suggested:
> Subject: Re: [Leica] FOR THE AMERICAN COUSINS. :-)
>
>
>> I'd love to see that in B&W. In color the flag could just use a  
>> tiny  bit more of contrast or saturation for me.
>
>
> OK Philippe  here it is in B&W:
>
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/leicated/B_amp_W+FLAG+QUADDY+POINT 
> +LIGHT+HOUSE+.jpg.html
>
> However I don't think it's any better. And to add contrast or  
> saturation in colour will put off the fact this was shot on a foggy  
> day with the sunlight barely filtering through the fog.
>
> ted
>
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