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Subject: [Leica] Opinions Collapsible Cron vs. Elmar or others
From: walt at waltjohnson.com (Walt Johnson)
Date: Fri Oct 27 19:47:45 2006
References: <000c01c6f9c8$5a3f9690$33031aac@luispersonal> <06CEB101-CB27-46ED-8E37-5459CCB0A39A@ncable.net.au>

I've always labored under the assumption slower, thin emulsion films 
have steeper curves and consequently are higher contrast. I wished it 
were possible to find some Tri-X circa 1970 because these newer films 
really seem to lack depth. They  are certainly sharp as hell and 
grainless but also toneless  compared to what once was. I picked up a 
collapsible a few years back with the usual haze that can be hard to 
see. Leitz redid it for me and image wise it compares with my late model 
Summicron. 

I sure can;t help but feel the look we all knew and loved related to 
film and developer rather than lens characteristics.

Walt

Alastair Firkin wrote:

> Ah, at last I can offer an opinion ;-) I have the collapsible  
> Summicron on my M3. It is a lens I choose above others when I want a  
> slightly 1960's feel to the result: using this lens with Plus  X like  
> film makes images I recognise, gives a feeling that is different to  
> the more modern glass: I suppose its "softness" and would suffer in  
> lens tests, but it would have been perfect for your "grab" shot the  
> other day of the two people kissing.
>
> Others will prefer Tri X, but I never liked Tri X. Being a contrary  
> bastard, I really disliked the high contrast grainy images my peers  
> were making in the 1970's and therefore always bought Plus X Pan ---  
> I use mainly APX 100 for the similar feeling now.
>
> One down side to the lens is that the f stop ring is a bit stiff and  
> rotating it sometimes unlocks the barrel, but I'm used to that now.  
> One plus is that it can be used to pre-focus with its "tab" far more  
> easily (certainly than the DR summicron which lacks the tab) because  
> the focus ring is "exposed" when the lens is "mounted" and easy to  
> feel without looking.
>
> Great lens in "some" ways and good travel companion.
>
> Cheers
> On 27/10/2006, at 23:03, Luis Ripoll wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I would appreciate your experienced opinions about the Collapsible  
>> Summicron
>> 50mm. I had the "Rigid" Summicron, I've sold it because it had  
>> fungus and
>> make a lot of haze, but I regret the nice richness of grey tones  
>> that this
>> lens gave me.
>>
>> Now I have 3 lenses of 50 mm: Summicron model of the year 198/199...,
>> Summilux (1964), and the new Elmar. I'm looking for the Collapsible
>> Summicron to have the "nostalgia" subtle tones of the past.
>>
>> Could I have some opinions about how it will compare with my actual  
>> 50mm
>> lenses (Summilux and Elmar)?
>>
>> Thanks in advance for your opinions and advice
>>
>> Saludos desde Barcelona
>> Luis
>>
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