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Subject: [Leica] Opinions Collapsible Cron vs. Elmar or others
From: langeratcarleton at gmail.com (Mark Langer)
Date: Fri Oct 27 08:46:47 2006
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I went through several Summars before I got a good one.  They suffer from
microscratches on the front element due to very soft glass, and are
typically affected by haze as well.  If you can get a clean one, like my
Sherry-serviced example, you'll find that it is a totally different beast.
Opened up, it renders a soft image that is superb for romantic or flattering
portraits in natural light.  Stopped down, contrast and resolution improve
dramatically.  It does come with a rather bulky lenshood, but the hood for
the 50/3.5 Elmar, which is quite compact, fits perfectly.

Mark

On 10/27/06, Leonard Taupier <len-1@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Thanks Mark. I've been thinking about getting a Summitar for some
> time (for the same reason as Luis). I also had the same feeling about
> the Summar, that it's not a good lens. Of course I don't want the
> look to be too vintage.
>
> Len
>
>
> On Oct 27, 2006, at 11:01 AM, Mark Langer wrote:
>
> > Don't forget the Summitar.  A vastly underrated lens, and a real
> > bargain.
> > If you want something really compact, the often despised Summar (if
> > you can
> > find a really good one) is a joy to use.  I have one in perfect
> > shape that
> > Sherry cleaned, and it proves that a good example of this lens really
> > refutes its terrible reputation.  If you want the vintage look,
> > this is the
> > lens for you.  Also, although this isn't in the same focal length,
> > the early
> > Canon 100/4 has a lovely vintage quality that is outstanding for
> > portraiture.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > On 10/27/06, Luis Ripoll <luisripoll@telefonica.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> Thanks Len, Your opinion helps me. Well, I have too the Tri-Elmar
> >> and the
> >> 3,5 / 5cm Elmar on my IIIF....
> >> Well, I think I'll go for it
> >>
> >> Thank you very much for your help,
> >> Best!
> >> Luis
> >>
> >> -----Mensaje original-----
> >> De: lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org
> >> [mailto:lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org] En
> >> nombre
> >> de
> >> Leonard Taupier
> >> Enviado el: viernes, 27 de octubre de 2006 16:51
> >> Para: Leica Users Group
> >> Asunto: Re: [Leica] Opinions Collapsible Cron vs. Elmar or others
> >>
> >> Lius,
> >>
> >> The collapsible Summicron is softer, with less contrast, especially
> >> wide open. It becomes very close to the rigid around f8 (I have the
> >> DR). While I like my DR the best,  I use the Summilux ASPH when I
> >> want ultimate sharpness. In all I have 6 50's including the Nocti and
> >> the Tri-Elmar. I also include a 50/3.5 Elmar. The only lens I have
> >> for my IIIc. I think your reason for wanting the collapsible is dead
> >> on. Try it, you'll like it.
> >>
> >> Good Luck and find a good one.
> >> Len
> >>
> >>
> >> On Oct 27, 2006, at 9:03 AM, Luis Ripoll wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hi all,
> >> >
> >> > I would appreciate your experienced opinions about the Collapsible
> >> > Summicron
> >> > 50mm. I had the "Rigid" Summicron, I've sold it because it had
> >> > fungus and
> >> > make a lot of haze, but I regret the nice richness of grey tones
> >> > that this
> >> > lens gave me.
> >> >
> >> > Now I have 3 lenses of 50 mm: Summicron model of the year
> >> 198/199...,
> >> > Summilux (1964), and the new Elmar. I'm looking for the Collapsible
> >> > Summicron to have the "nostalgia" subtle tones of the past.
> >> >
> >> > Could I have some opinions about how it will compare with my actual
> >> > 50mm
> >> > lenses (Summilux and Elmar)?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks in advance for your opinions and advice
> >> >
> >> > Saludos desde Barcelona
> >> > Luis
> >> >
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