[Leica] Infrared ans autumn

[hoppyman at bigpond.net.au (G Hopkinson)]

Henning thanks for that comprehensive info. I am by no means expert on IR, 
just meant that a similar attractive effect could be
achieved with normal film. Your post explains that it wouldn't be an 
accurate replication of a pic from an IR emulsion, though. Fair
enough, I don't have any mission for IR, never played with it, in fact. Your 
sample is very striking, thanks.
Cheers
Hoppy

-----Original Message-----
From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org 
[mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
Henning Wulff
Sent: Saturday, 21 October 2006 15:03
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: RE: [Leica] Infrared ans autumn

>You go, Len!
>No question that Jim produces superb work with some rather wonderful 
>traditional gear. Regarding the IR I was just thinking that you
>could achieve the same tonal effect (with less grain) from scanned 
>conventional black and white film, with our old friend, the
>channel mixer.
>Cheers
>Hoppy

Nope. The spectral response is unique, and while you can do neat 
things in Photoshop, correct IR simulations isn't one of them. It 
also depends on what IR filter you put on the camera. If you could 
get an IR colour film that had equal sensitivity up to 1000nm or so, 
then you could use the channel mixer effectively.

I shot the following with the M8 and an 87 filter at 1250 ISO, 
handheld. I don't know for sure that the production model will be 
able to do the same, but I hope so.

I shoot (or shot) a lot of HIE in 35, 4x5 and also Maco 820c and 
Konica 750, but compared with those the M8 was way easier (and 
cheaper). Only the 4x5 HIE gave higher quality results.

http://www.archiphoto.com/Various/IRs.jpg


This is the only picture from the pre-production M8 I'm posting, as 
an illustration and not as either a pictorial masterpiece or example 
of the M8's quality. :-)

>-----Original Message-----
>From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org 
>[mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] On 
>Behalf Of
>Leonard Taupier
>Sent: Saturday, 21 October 2006 10:25
>To: Leica Users Group
>Subject: Re: [Leica] Infrared ans autumn
>
>Hoppy. I was joking with you. My last film IR was two weeks ago using 
>a M6 with a 28, 50 and 90mm primes and an 89B Cokin filter. Used  
>Kodak HIE developed in D76 and scanned with a Nikon Coolscan 9000. 
>Then cleaned up in CS2. I use photoshop for everything including my 
>film work. My last digital IR was yesterday using a D1H. What Jim 
>does is a lot of work and the film is expensive. But he's rewarded 
>with great photos. I also like the fact he uses vintage equipment. I 
>use a Spotmatic II from time to time. Most of my infrared is digital 
>and manipulated in my MAC. I have never tried conventional film for 
>IR but it's intriguing. Now that I'm retired I have plenty of time to 
>play.
>
>Cheers,
>Len
>

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