Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/10/19
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]On Oct 19, 2006, at 12:33 PM, Kyle Cassidy wrote: > Steve brings up some very real and interesting points, all of which > I've > been thinking about a great deal over the last year. Certianly my > photographic moods have taken various twists and turns since I joined > this group in 1998. I've photographed goth models, people who cut > themselves, people with tattoos, and various other little things along > the way, and I did each as long as it was alive in my mind and when it > started to get old, I moved on. And it happens that during this > particular project, with the invaluable help of some people on this > list, I should mention, I convinced a publisher that they should > pay me > to keep doing this. The opportunity and financial ability to keep > doing > it has served to keep it interesting longer -- it gave me the > ability to > work not in my immediate area, but to drive across the country and > meet > people -- which is really very exciting to me. Had a publisher gotten > behind me to keep photographing cutters, or got me back to romania to > photograph the kids in the sewers, I would have been just as happy. I > took pictures before they paid me, and I'll take pictures when they > stop. I suspect that Steve's not a doctor for the money, rather that > healing is part of his nature, but that occasionally the money > suggests > a direction -- where to live, what to practice -- and so move we all. > The money doesn't give you the drive, just the ability to keep at > it and > keep yourself in film. > > As for the tiny slice of psychopathology -- it's not that tiny, it's > nearly half of every single house in this country and, as Jim pointed > out, why does nobody talk about it? If one want to talk about tiny > slices of psychopathology, we could talk about leica camera ownership. > One of the things that did fascinate me about it from the beginning is > that nobody talks about it, or at least nobody that I know. > Subcultures > I find fascinating. Had I driven across the country photographing the > main stream ("100 portraits of people who live in houses!") it > probably > wouldn't have interested me as much, though, in some parts of this > country (Lousiana and Wisconsin for example) Gun Culture is not a > subculture, it is indeed the Predominant Culture -- you can just to > door > to door, introduce yourself, and start photographing. > > As to whether or not this is doccumentary photography, I'll leave for > art critics to say. I was very motivated by Mary Ellen Mark's > photographs of the Aryan Nation in Idaho. Looking at her photos years > ago I found myself thinking "holy smokes, this woman looks like she > works in a Dairy Queen" > (http://sapere.alice.it/gallery/Mary_Ellen_Mark/zoom1.html) I was very > impressed that Mary Ellen wasn't influenced by the costumery, or the > rhetoric, she took a portrait like she'd take any other. That made me > realize that these women might, in fact, work at the Dairy Queen after > all, and that they have kids, and go to the park, and live in a house, > and whatever else. Seeing the face behind the mask made me very > curious > about all the other faces and all the other masks -- business > executives > who dress in leather and ride harley's on the weekends, Mild Mannered > men who pay women to beat them up, Star Trek fans, groupies -- Secret > Identities. > > Going into this I had two main criteria: > > 1) I'd photograph anybody who was willing to be photographed whom I > could physically get to. Nobody got preference, nobody got cut, to get > in, all you had to do was have a gun, let me come over, and sign a > model > release. I've had waaaay more opportunity, (volunteers) than I've had > the ability to get to and limits on paper and book prices have limited > this to 100 portraits, which I think is a pretty decent size -- most > photo books seem to hover between 50 and 75. > > 2) I was going to treat every portrait as if there were no guns in it. > I'd treat this as an assignment to photograph people in their new > homes. > Or, as it turned out to be -- people and their pets. My thought was > that > by doing this, It would present the gun issue in a larger context. I'm > not interested in guns -- I'm interested in people -- what are these > people like? What are their lives like? I thought the best way to find > out was to look at where they live. Some of them have a big > relationship > with guns, some have guns they haven't taken out of the closet in > fifteen years, some of them don't like guns at all -- but they're all > part of those 4 in 10 american households. Some of these people have > sinnister portraits because they look stern and live in a foreboding > enviornment, some of these people look cute and harmless because they > smile a lot and live in cute and harmless looking houses. Some people > are messy, some are neat freaks. > > Certianly this project gets clipping at the top and the bottom end of > the spectrum. Many people on the left wings don't want their neighbors > to know they have guns. Many people on the right think that I'm > working > for either Sarah Brady, producing a book that ridicules gun owners, or > that I'm working for the ATF compiling a list of people who own > guns for > the Great Confiscation. In fact, so vociferous has been the noise from > the very hardest core of the gun culture threatening to kick my ass > for > producing anti-gun propaganda that my publisher freaked out and made > sure that I got an unlisted phone number. > > I suspect that everyone gets out of this something flavored by what > they > came in with, and that's what I'm interested in hearing about, other > people's reaction. So far, it's kept people talking and I think > that, in > my mind at least, makes it successful. that Kyle, is a wonderful response... cogent, compelling, and controlled...as well as being... I believe, truly honest. I respect you for this...as well as for keeping on with your project, even though I have strong reservations about its meaning, significance, and the motives of the people (especially those of the subjects) involved... I ask only for a free and autographed copy of the book... to thank me for my help in promoting and selling it.... Steve > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information