Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/10/09

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Subject: [Leica] Jeffery PAW - 34 - Using the new 50/1.5 Sonnar
From: jsmith342 at cox.net (Jeffery Smith)
Date: Mon Oct 9 15:22:06 2006

I was surprised that a Zeiss lens made in the 20th century would have so
much attention apparently paid to its bokeh. Hell, I'm not sure when the
word bokeh was coined. But all of the things that I generally find
objectionable in bokeh are NOT there. No donuts, no discoid objects, no
double-images, no 1/4 moons, no chatter.

Jeffery Smith
New Orleans, LA
http://www.400tx.com
http://400tx.blogspot.com/



-----Original Message-----
From: lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Peter
Klein
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 2:05 AM
To: lug@leica-users.org
Subject: [Leica] Jeffery PAW - 34 - Using the new 50/1.5 Sonnar


Jeffery:  Ooh, yeah!  That's the "good" Sonnar look all right.  If you'd 
told us the photo was a oldie from 1935 you'd just dug up, it would have 
been plausible.

But there's something new about this lens, at least in the picture you 
posted.  The out-of-focus stuff kind of dissolves away beautifully like the 
old Sonnars, but without bright-rimmed circles of light and double lines 
you see in the Japanese Sonnar reformulations like the 50/1.4 Nikkor when 
focused close and wide open.  Those nasties seem smoothed out, while the 
lens still has the basic Sonnar character.  If it can render like this 
consistently, it's a gem.

Did the German Sonnars you've tried have the double-line and donut 
bokeh?  Or was it just the postwar Japanese tweaks of the formula?  Have 
you tried the early-50s Canon 50/1.5, which is supposed to be essentially a 
Sonnar copy?

On another subject:  While reading your blog, I saw your comments about the 
K100D and 30/1.4 Sigma.  Some days, when my M8 lust is tempered by thoughts 
of price, I get the urge to just get a K100D and a fast lens, and be done 
with it for a year or two.  Of course, the K10D might be even better, blah 
blah blah. . .  Any further thoughts about the K100D and Sigma 30/1.4 since 
you wrote that blog entry?

--Peter

At 09:04 PM 10/8/2006 -0700, Jeffery wrote:

>http://www.400tx.com/2006-34.html
>
>So far, I'm very pleased with this new Zeiss 50/1.5 Sonnar. I have 
>spent a lot of money trying to buy and "renovate" a good LTM 50/1.5 
>Sonnar from 50-60 years ago. I can stop looking. This lens gives me the 
>look I've been trying to achieve.


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