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Subject: [Leica] B&W only version of M8 - no channel mixer anymore?
From: don.dory at gmail.com (Don Dory)
Date: Sun Oct 8 15:28:23 2006
References: <9b678e0610081413n71130fafn15c941c52054a2e9@mail.gmail.com> <002101c6eb1e$fc6288a0$6502a8c0@SonyLaptop>

Bill,
It is one of those strong probables.  The chip is a sister chip to the one
in the M8 and you don't have white balance issues so the change would not be
great.  There was a short straw poll at LHSA and there was a lot of
enthusiasm for it.

Don
don.dory@gmail.com


On 10/8/06, Bill <Bill@photobynelsch.com> wrote:
>
> Are you saying that this is going to happen?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+bill=photobynelsch.com@leica-users.org
> [mailto:lug-bounces+bill=photobynelsch.com@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
> Don
> Dory
> Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 3:13 PM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] B&W only version of M8 - no channel mixer anymore?
>
> The proposed B&W only M8b would have a different chip also made by Kodak
> that does not have any color filters so you get every pixel as gray scale.
> Much more information and potentially much finer detail
> possible.  Therefore
> absolutely no possibility to get color out unless you do three exposures
> using RGB filters.
>
> Don
> don.dory@gmail.com
>
>
> On 10/3/06, Didier Ludwig <rangefinder@screengang.com> wrote:
> >
> > I agree to Nathan it will certainly not be only a simple algorithm
> > unsaturating the color picture. But even if it offers more dynamic
> > range, I doubt there will be color channels in such RAW B&W files. And
> > its just the color cannels that allow very fine and precise B&W
> > editing, something that would get lost as soon as the RAW file is in
> > greyscale mode. At least for me, as I get the heck out of the channel
> mixer.
> >
> > With the RD-1 RAW software, I have set the prefs that B&W is the
> > default mode when opening an Epson RAW file. So I don't see any color
> > except if I want. But still have the channel mixer feature.
> >
> > Didier
> >
> >
> >
> > >The rumor is that the camera will provide RAW files, but without the
> > >color. Instead, the extra "sensor real estate" will allegedly be used
> > >to provide more megapixels or great dynamic range. So for someone who
> > >truly never ever shoots color, this may be the digital M they want.
> > >
> > >It is NOT the same as the silly B&W mode provided by some cameras.
> > >
> > >Nathan
> >
> >
> >
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