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Subject: [Leica] Re: Shutter lag
From: tedgrant at shaw.ca (Ted Grant)
Date: Sat Oct 7 21:46:12 2006
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Thank you Harrison,
ted
Ted Grant Photography Limited
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Harrison McClary" <harrison@mcclary.net>
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 6:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Re: Shutter lag


> Lawrence Zeitlin wrote:
>>
>>
>> With all due respect, Ted, while remarkable sports shots, they don't 
>> prove anything except that you know the sport and where to position 
>> yourself in the arena. To get a decent picture of a basketball layup or a 
>> diver in a mid air tuck is a piece of cake. In most sports, there are a 
>> few locations where players converge and dramatic actions can be 
>> recorded. The basketball goal posts, the hockey net, home plate or first 
>> base on a baseball diamond are good examples. You know where the action 
>> will take place, you can prefocus, and then wait until the player moves 
>> into position. But you have no idea if the hockey goalie will actually 
>> stop the puck or the soccer player will actually head the corner kick. 
>> Nor do you have any examples of adventitious pictures of events that 
>> can't be predicted like a basketball midcourt steal, a Grand Prix tire 
>> blowout, or the knockout punch in a prizefight. Good as you are, there is 
>> at least a fifth of a second from the time you think about taking a 
>> picture until the shutter actually opens. In that time, a jumping 
>> basketball player can leap three feet, a fastball thrown by a big league 
>> pitcher will travel 26 feet, and a speeding race car will travel 35 to 40 
>> feet. I suspect that you click the shutter when the action starts and, 
>> like most of us, trust to luck that you will record a memorable picture.
>>
>> Come on now, be honest. How many shots ended in the wastebasket to 
>> produce the ones on the web site? If you say that you get every picture 
>> with one click of the camera you will give the rest of us a horrible 
>> inferiority complex.
>
> The above was OBVIOUSLY written by someone who has never covered sports of 
> any type for a living.
> First of all NO ONE who is a professional photographer PREFOCUSES...this 
> is a HUGE  misconception by amatures about how to photograph sports.  I 
> have covered events from the NCAA championships, the World Series, Super 
> Bowls down to high school football.  I NEVER prefocused a single shot. 
> Mid Court steals?  Try that with a 400 2.8 my friend.  And yes I have 
> quite a few of those shots...show them to you?  Go dig through the 
> Betteman archives as they were shot for UPI and are lost somewhere in a 
> salt mine somewhere.
>
> Photograph a player making a mid air reception with the ball on his 
> fingertips?  Yep..been there done that also.
>
> http://www.pbase.com/2plus2/image/32936855
> http://www.pbase.com/2plus2/image/32936857
>
> Admittedly those were shot with a Canon FD system, but my EOS 1DII shoots 
> just as fast as that old F1N did.
>
> I am sorry but shooting kids is no where in the same ball park as shooting 
> sports is.  I have kids and I have covered pro sports...believe me sports 
> are FAR harder.  Period.
>
>
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Replies: Reply from leicachris at worldnet.att.net (Christopher Williams) ([Leica] Re:Shutter lag)
In reply to: Message from lrzeitlin at optonline.net (Lawrence Zeitlin) ([Leica] Re: Shutter lag)
Message from harrison at mcclary.net (Harrison McClary) ([Leica] Re: Shutter lag)