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Subject: [Leica] Salgado and Illy Coffee (For Philippe)
From: bd at bdcolenphoto.com (B. D. Colen)
Date: Thu Oct 5 09:41:09 2006

Right you are - or right we are! :-)


On 10/5/06 12:45 AM, "Nathan Wajsman" <nathan@nathanfoto.com> wrote:

> Yes, but:
> http://arts.guardian.co.uk/salgado/story/0,,1301926,00.html#article_continue
> so we are both right. He was employed by the coffee organization, but
> there was a World Bank connection as well on that particular trip.
> 
> Nathan
> 
> B. D. Colen wrote:
>> http://unews.utah.edu/p/?r=031006-47
>> 
>> 
>> On 10/1/06 8:00 PM, "Anders Nygren" <anders.nygren@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>   
>>> A long time ago Nathan wrote:
>>> 
>>> "Salgado was working for the World Bank, as far as I remember, and it was
>>> during one of the trips he made on behalf of the bank that he started
>>> photographing what he saw. You do not get rich by working for the World
>>> Bank, and economists generally are not that well paid, except the few
>>> Nobel-winning stars and the snake-oil merchants on Wall Street. So I am
>>> sure that Salgado made the right career choice (for him!) also from the
>>> point of view of personal finance."
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 10/1/06, B. D. Colen <bd@bdcolenphoto.com> wrote:
>>>     
>>>> I know he's an economist, but I believe that he was doing work with a
>>>> coffee
>>>> cooperative of some sort, borrowed his wife's camera when he went on 
>>>> trip,
>>>> and the rest is history.;-)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 10/1/06 5:47 PM, "Steve Barbour" <kididdoc@cox.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>       
>>>>> On Oct 1, 2006, at 2:35 PM, B. D. Colen wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>         
>>>>>> Not to beat a dead horse - ah, what the hell, they can't bite or
>>>>>> kick ;-) -
>>>>>> but what major documentarian hasn't done commissioned work of one
>>>>>> kind or
>>>>>> another? Good God, Eugene Richards has done ad campaigns for Nike
>>>>>> and Levis,
>>>>>> Mary Ellen Mark regularly does commercial work, and on and on. And
>>>>>> perhaps
>>>>>> I'm delusional at this point on a rainy Sunday, but wasn't Salgado an
>>>>>> economist with some sort of Latin America coffee growers
>>>>>> cooperative or some
>>>>>> such?
>>>>>>           
>>>>>   I seem to recall Salgado being trained in economy in Paris well
>>>>> before he ever ventured into photography...
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Steve
>>>>>         
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 10/1/06 5:03 PM, "Didier Ludwig" <rangefinder@screengang.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>> Philippe
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I had a Nespresso machine in my office before Amici Caff?/Illy
>>>>>>> became my
>>>>>>> client. I got a X1 espresso machine and a few kg of coffee beans.
>>>>>>> I have given
>>>>>>> away the Nespresso machine as well as about 200 capsules of
>>>>>>> coffee, for free
>>>>>>> and without regrets. Nespresso is at least three floors below
>>>>>>> Illy. It's like
>>>>>>> comparing a a 1999 Rioja Conde de Valdemar (certainly a fine all
>>>>>>> day red
>>>>>>> wine), to a 1979 Ch?teau Mouton-Rothschild Grand Cru Class?.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The Amici (swiss illy) website I've recently created is in french,
>>>>>>> too, find
>>>>>>> some interesting articles about how illy is:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -handling the production of coffee*:
>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/j8fhk
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -tasting Coffee*:
>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/m5ckk
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -selectioning the raw goods:
>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/gg9hl
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -practising "Commerce ?quitable":
>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/f95zw
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> (*flash player required)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>> Didier
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>>> This one ain't bad either:
>>>>>>>> http://www.nespresso.com/precom/n_home_be_en.html
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>> 
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