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Subject: [Leica] Salgado and Illy Coffee OT a bit
From: bd at bdcolenphoto.com (B. D. Colen)
Date: Fri Sep 29 13:35:37 2006

There's the real problem Chris - you wandered into that cathedral of
consumerism. :-)


On 9/29/06 3:15 PM, "Chris Saganich" <chs2018@med.cornell.edu> wrote:

> Yes, the work resembles the FSA in many ways.  Normally this sort of thing
> wouldn't bother me.  Normally I wouldn't be wondering around such a
> place.  I have to be more careful.
> Chris
> 
> At 12:36 PM 9/29/2006, you wrote:
>> Two questions- what were the images? And how many people would be exposed 
>> to
>> them without them being at the Time-Warner mall at Columbus Circle?
>> 
>> Remember that the photography we so admire from the FSA group from the 
>> 30's
>> was, unlike Salgado's work, PR work to begin with - photos-to-order, paid
>> for by the government, to convince people of the necessity for passing
>> certain legislation. ;-)
>> 
>> 
>> On 9/29/06 12:11 PM, "Chris Saganich" <chs2018@med.cornell.edu> wrote:
>> 
>>> So I happened to be wondering through the Time-Warner mall at Columbus
>>> Circle last week when I spied a lot of giant Salgado prints on display, 
>>> (he
>>> once used a Leica).  On each image there was a small caption about the
>>> image and a plug for Illy, which I had never heard of before.  I assumed
>>> Illy was some group sponsoring the exhibit.  At the conclusion of the
>>> exhibit there was a coffee bar, an Illy coffee bar.  I was unhappy to
>>> realize the whole thing was a PR campaign.  Now the question shot into my
>>> mind...is this right?  I looked around at the mall and the shops and all
>>> the people sipping the Illy coffee and then at the Salgado prints again 
>>> and
>>> the prints became reduced to corporate PR and I was angry.  Flame me all
>>> you want but I realized two things - consumption has replaced democracy,
>>> and the image is the driving force behind consumption.  It's all so rude.
>>> 
>>> Chris Saganich - not happy with the world these days.
>>> 
>>> 
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