Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/09/17
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Of course Hoppy I was joking. My knowledge of English is limited, yes I was talking about eye surgery, the results are excellent! Salud! Luis -----Mensaje original----- De: lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org [mailto:lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org] En nombre de G Hopkinson Enviado el: domingo, 17 de septiembre de 2006 15:00 Para: 'Leica Users Group' Asunto: RE: [Leica] Tri Elmar M 16-18-21 mm F4 ASPH lens I'm sorry, Luis, I don't quite understand chirurgical. Are you recommending eye surgery instead of buying correction lenses? Ouch! That's like a vasectomy as contraception! My eyes are watering and my legs are crossed ;-) I've bought two correction lenses at a fairly high expense and they should be good for me. They are not but the standard -.5 of the camera works well for me. Still I cannot use glasses to view through the viewfinder or see the controls very clearly without glasses. Salud! Hoppy -----Original Message----- From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org [mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Luis Ripoll Sent: Sunday, 17 September 2006 20:23 To: 'Leica Users Group' Subject: RE: [Leica] Tri Elmar M 16-18-21 mm F4 ASPH lens Hoppy, Today with the chirurgical, would be maybe even cheaper!, my wife was do it, and on one of her eyes had 16 dioptries! Saludos cordiales, Luis -----Mensaje original----- De: lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org [mailto:lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org] En nombre de G Hopkinson Enviado el: domingo, 17 de septiembre de 2006 5:50 Para: 'Leica Users Group' Asunto: RE: [Leica] Tri Elmar M 16-18-21 mm F4 ASPH lens Further to this saga. Now that the info is up on the Leica US site you can read all about it. So all five settings are exactly as marked on the M7 or earlier. For the M8 you use 21, 24, 28 for 16, 18, 21 respectively! Amazing. That means it's not setup specifically for the M8, which you'd assume the new lens is aimed at. Not so and really a little counterintuitive should you enter the M system with an 8 and the triple wide bad boy. Still it reinforces the suitability for the lens and setup as perfect for film Ms and also usable on that new fangled digital thingie. The only disappointment is that they chose not to build in dioptre correction which would have been reasonable given the behemoth dimensions and price of this thing. Anyone that has priced a dioptre correction lens might be similarly miffed. You can buy a classic Nikon film SLR for less than one of those correction lenses here. Cheers Hoppy -----Original Message----- From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org [mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of grduprey@mchsi.com Sent: Saturday, 16 September 2006 15:01 To: Leica Users Group Subject: RE: [Leica] Tri Elmar M 16-18-21 mm F4 ASPH lens Actually Hoppy, you set the finder for the focal lenght of the lens you are attaching, as Tom alluded to several posts ago. Gene -------------- Original message from "G Hopkinson" <hoppyman@bigpond.net.au>: -------------- > And the quoted price for lens and universal wide angle finder is 3,500 Euro. > Actually when you read the spec more carefully, that finder will display 5 > frames (all singly), being 16, 18, 21, 24 & 28. Since > there's no interface with the camera (except for a mounting foot) I guess you > need to remember which to select on the M7 etc or M8. > > So for M8: > with the new Tri-Elmar you set 16, 18 or 21 but you actually get 21, 24 or 28 > effectively. > If you fit the current 21 you'd need to set 28. For the 24, 28 and up you use > the camera's finder. > > For the M7 and earlier, you can use 16, 18 or 21 as 16, 18, or 21 > For the current 21, 24 and 28 you can set 21, 24, or 28 > For 28 (.72 & lower) and up you can use the camera finder. > > My brain hurts, I need to lie down now. > > Cheers Hoppy > 51 this year or 68 effective with crop factor. > > -----Original Message----- > From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org > [mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of > grduprey@mchsi.com > Sent: Saturday, 16 September 2006 13:41 > To: Leica Users Group > Subject: RE: [Leica] Tri Elmar M 16-18-21 mm F4 ASPH lens > > The Leica web site has all the info on it also. Considering the cost of the > Zeiss single/double lens finders compared to the tri > finder from Leica, can't be that bad. And then it is the only finder you would > need. > > Gene > > > -------------- Original message from "G Hopkinson" : > -------------- > > > > Mark the specs and brochure are released, at least to user forum members. I > > guess they must be in wide circulation by now. > > It does look yummy. Its Dimensions and weight > > Length to bayonet flange approx. 63mm > > Largest diameter approx. 55mm > > Weight approx. 350g > > For us metric folks. > > > > But you are going to have to buy the horrendously complex and expensive super > > finder thingie to go with it. > > > > Cheers > > Hoppy > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org > > [mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of > > Mark Rabiner > > Sent: Friday, 15 September 2006 10:44 > > To: lug@leica-users.org > > Subject: [Leica] Tri Elmar M 16-18-21 mm F4 ASPH lens > > > > http://www.dpreview.com/articles/leicam8/ > > !!!!!!!~!!!!! > > > > I'm not seeing any mention of this mouth watering hot little volcano of an > > item as part of the dpreview article on the M8. I wonder if anyone bothered > > turning the page!!!?!. > > I think we're all to busy playing with our DSLR's to bother with what's > > happening with Leica. > > > > On your M8 it becomes an 21-24-28 mm. > > > > Film M users might clamor for a 21-24-28 mm. Putting it mildly. > > Could get them to learn to love the digital revolution. > > To go with their 16-18-21 mm which has revolutionized their Leica film > > shooting. > > Not that THAT would NOT also revolutionize their film shooting. > > As they've promised it covers a whole hunk of 24x36mm flim. > > > > But sooner or later it will be interesting and I think it will be after > > another year that Leica makes a lens optimized for the 1.33 "format". > > With advantages in the compactness end as well as the quality of the other > > end as its an optic designed around a much smaller image circle. And can > > thus be made to produce a higher quality image in that area. > > Smaller the circle the higher the resolution and so on are going to be. > > Some of us may not know that. Glass which covers medium format as in 6x6cm > > do not have the rez in a 24x36 area tat a lens designed for that format has. > > And its obvious a medium format lens is nowhere near as compact as lenses > > made for 35. > > > > I've been loving using my 55-200mm F/4-5.6G ED AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor lens. > > Featherweight and incredibly compact. > > Its an 80-300 which looks like a 105 2.5 or 80 or smaller. > > Especially if you leave the lens shade off. > > The guy across the street would have no idea you were getting a tight > > headshot of his Pomeranian. > > > > Or Shih Tzu. > > > > Or Brussels Griffon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark Rabiner > > > > 40?46'58.65"N 73?49'31.68"W > > Whitestone NY 11357 > > > > http://rabinergroup.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information _______________________________________________ Leica Users Group. 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