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Subject: [Leica] Tri Elmar M 16-18-21 mm F4 ASPH lens
From: hoppyman at bigpond.net.au (G Hopkinson)
Date: Fri Sep 15 23:20:27 2006

Part answering my own reply. The current 21 ought to match the internal 
finder 28 frame lines on an M8

-----Original Message-----
From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org 
[mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
G Hopkinson
Sent: Saturday, 16 September 2006 16:17
To: 'Leica Users Group'
Subject: RE: [Leica] Tri Elmar M 16-18-21 mm F4 ASPH lens

Gene, what about on an M7
What about the current 21 on an M8?

-----Original Message-----
From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org 
[mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
grduprey@mchsi.com
Sent: Saturday, 16 September 2006 15:01
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: RE: [Leica] Tri Elmar M 16-18-21 mm F4 ASPH lens

Actually Hoppy, you set the finder for the focal lenght of the lens you are 
attaching, as Tom alluded to several posts ago.

Gene


-------------- Original message from "G Hopkinson" 
<hoppyman@bigpond.net.au>: -------------- 


> And the quoted price for lens and universal wide angle finder is 3,500 
> Euro. 
> Actually when you read the spec more carefully, that finder will display 5 
> frames (all singly), being 16, 18, 21, 24 & 28. Since 
> there's no interface with the camera (except for a mounting foot) I guess 
> you 
> need to remember which to select on the M7 etc or M8. 
> 
> So for M8: 
> with the new Tri-Elmar you set 16, 18 or 21 but you actually get 21, 24 or 
> 28 
> effectively. 
> If you fit the current 21 you'd need to set 28. For the 24, 28 and up you 
> use 
> the camera's finder. 
> 
> For the M7 and earlier, you can use 16, 18 or 21 as 16, 18, or 21 
> For the current 21, 24 and 28 you can set 21, 24, or 28 
> For 28 (.72 & lower) and up you can use the camera finder. 
> 
> My brain hurts, I need to lie down now. 
> 
> Cheers Hoppy 
> 51 this year or 68 effective with crop factor. 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org 
> [mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of 
> grduprey@mchsi.com 
> Sent: Saturday, 16 September 2006 13:41 
> To: Leica Users Group 
> Subject: RE: [Leica] Tri Elmar M 16-18-21 mm F4 ASPH lens 
> 
> The Leica web site has all the info on it also. Considering the cost of 
> the 
> Zeiss single/double lens finders compared to the tri 
> finder from Leica, can't be that bad. And then it is the only finder you 
> would 
> need. 
> 
> Gene 
> 
> 
> -------------- Original message from "G Hopkinson" : 
> -------------- 
> 
> 
> > Mark the specs and brochure are released, at least to user forum 
> > members. I 
> > guess they must be in wide circulation by now. 
> > It does look yummy. Its Dimensions and weight 
> > Length to bayonet flange approx. 63mm 
> > Largest diameter approx. 55mm 
> > Weight approx. 350g 
> > For us metric folks. 
> > 
> > But you are going to have to buy the horrendously complex and expensive 
> > super 
> > finder thingie to go with it. 
> > 
> > Cheers 
> > Hoppy 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message----- 
> > From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org 
> > [mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] On Behalf 
> > Of 
> > Mark Rabiner 
> > Sent: Friday, 15 September 2006 10:44 
> > To: lug@leica-users.org 
> > Subject: [Leica] Tri Elmar M 16-18-21 mm F4 ASPH lens 
> > 
> > http://www.dpreview.com/articles/leicam8/ 
> > !!!!!!!~!!!!! 
> > 
> > I'm not seeing any mention of this mouth watering hot little volcano of 
> > an 
> > item as part of the dpreview article on the M8. I wonder if anyone 
> > bothered 
> > turning the page!!!?!. 
> > I think we're all to busy playing with our DSLR's to bother with what's 
> > happening with Leica. 
> > 
> > On your M8 it becomes an 21-24-28 mm. 
> > 
> > Film M users might clamor for a 21-24-28 mm. Putting it mildly. 
> > Could get them to learn to love the digital revolution. 
> > To go with their 16-18-21 mm which has revolutionized their Leica film 
> > shooting. 
> > Not that THAT would NOT also revolutionize their film shooting. 
> > As they've promised it covers a whole hunk of 24x36mm flim. 
> > 
> > But sooner or later it will be interesting and I think it will be after 
> > another year that Leica makes a lens optimized for the 1.33 "format". 
> > With advantages in the compactness end as well as the quality of the 
> > other 
> > end as its an optic designed around a much smaller image circle. And can 
> > thus be made to produce a higher quality image in that area. 
> > Smaller the circle the higher the resolution and so on are going to be. 
> > Some of us may not know that. Glass which covers medium format as in 
> > 6x6cm 
> > do not have the rez in a 24x36 area tat a lens designed for that format 
> > has. 
> > And its obvious a medium format lens is nowhere near as compact as 
> > lenses 
> > made for 35. 
> > 
> > I've been loving using my 55-200mm F/4-5.6G ED AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor lens. 
> > Featherweight and incredibly compact. 
> > Its an 80-300 which looks like a 105 2.5 or 80 or smaller. 
> > Especially if you leave the lens shade off. 
> > The guy across the street would have no idea you were getting a tight 
> > headshot of his Pomeranian. 
> > 
> > Or Shih Tzu. 
> > 
> > Or Brussels Griffon. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Mark Rabiner 
> > 
> > 40?46'58.65"N 73?49'31.68"W 
> > Whitestone NY 11357 
> > 
> > http://rabinergroup.com/ 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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> > 
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