Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/09/14
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]It is a great casual shot. I never fought that. On the contrary. But the PS work on it de-naturalized it. That is what I tried to point out. In the 2nd version it is already less. I'm surprised you didn't see that, Ted. It also can be that you're less sensible to color. And maybe unsensible to other's opinions, too: sometimes the whole 'it is true because I say so' thing gets a bit tiring. No matter how great the work you produce(d) yourself is. Op 14-sep-06, om 06:44 heeft Ted Grant het volgende geschreven: > Hoppy showed: > Subject: [Leica] hoppys casual portrait revisited > > >> Folks following comment by Philippe, I've revisited this portrait. >> > I think it is an improvement. >> > Less digital Nocterising and some other tweaks. >> > When folks spot your alterations readily you've done them >> poorly, I > think. >> > I shall leave the original up for a short while in case anyone >> would > like to compare. >> > <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/hoppyman/analog/family/Casual >> +_portrait_+ver+2.jpg.html> > >> http://tinyurl.com/g27yd<<< > > Hoppy, > I haven't got a clue what Philippe was talking about, but obviously > he has a far better eye and screen size to find anything wrong with > the original posted picture. > > When it came on screen first time I figured.... "Very nice quick > casual shot well done Hoppy!" That was it! A cool photograph. > > Nothing wrong with it! Now yer screwing around with it because of > this whole digital crap thing . One question........ > > "How does a print look, say 11X17? Now a print, not the screen, > hold it at the correct viewing distance for that size and ask > yourself, " is this a good photograph?" You can't come back with > anything else but... "Yep neat picture!" period > > Never mind looking for all the "effects things." Then show it to a > few people who don't have a clue about digital smigital and ask > them what they think as a print? And a photograph? > > Then come back and tell us your findings. > > I'm giving a lecture next week about digital and what the hell it's > doing.. title? > > "Ease up on the number effects and come back to photography!" > > And right here with your photo is a prime example of what's > happening supposedly making it better. Or whatever the hell people > try to do, rather than having a neat picture and leave it alone. > Sure we all make "digital adjustments" that are simple and straight > forward. Mine are 99% whatever happens on "Automatic!" ;-) If I > don't like it, I change it, but dang few times. > > You've got a photograph entitled "Casual portrait", looks good on > the screen without question when I saw it the first time. Whether > you had messed with it before the first posting who cares because > it looked fine. In other words what people don't know doesn't > matter, do they like the finished product and will they pay you for > it! Very handsomely! ;-) > > So I'm surprised what all the extra back and forth is about and why > you're still fiddling with a fine picture. I've gone back and forth > a couple dozen times trying to see what's wrong with the first > posting compared to whatever you did on the re-post? > > One thing without question with digital, I'm lumping everything > from camera, printer, the fixing up and how people look at finished > prints into one pot! It appears to be constantly floundering far > more about numbers and special corrective effects rather than the > content and how good the photograph itself is!! > > I know there'll be all kinds of re-butts, however I'm getting truly > fed-up with people who do nothing but constantly talk numbers and > never appear to be looking at how beautiful the photograph is. > > Sure it's a learning curve for all of us, as wet tray was. Or maybe > it's me not getting the usual darkroom dose of fresh fixer! ;-) So > endth the rant? bit....ing" > > ted > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >